One VERY VERY unhappy Ebay buyer....
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I sold a car a couple of weeks ago on Ebay for a mate of mine who is now suffering Dementia... His wife asked me to sell the car for him as he is getting worse and she now realises he will never complete the restoration, which has actually been going on for 30 years!
Anyway, I took some photos of the car and all the parts to go with it and listed it on Ebay as a 10 day auction. I had loads of watchers and on day 2 was contacted by a guy who wanted to see the car. We spoke on the phone and he arranged to come and see it on the weekend and travelled a 300 mile round trip to view it. I went to meet him at my mates house, he seemed a decent sort and took ages looking through the parts, making sure everything was there, checking the car over... He then asked if my mate would accept £4000 cash for the car which he had on him. It was tempting as it was well in excess of the price I expected it to make...
However, the bidding was already up to £3000 ish and as this guy couldn't take the car there and then (needed a trailer and a van for the spares) I declined the offer and asked him to bid. He tried to push me quite a bit, but I said no, and off he went back home.
In the mean time there had been several bids and the auction had reached just over £4000... but the first bidder was still in the lead as no one had out bid him and his automatic bids just kept outbidding all the others. Still no bid from the guy who had come to see it though... The auction stayed at just over £4000 right up to the last 10 seconds when it jumped to £8000!
Shortly after the auction ended I got a very irate call from the guy who had been to see it saying that I had rigged the auction as he had bid £8000 and lost it to the first bidder! Looks like the first bidder had also bid £8000 right at the beginning but as he was first, he won! the guy got VERY VERY angry on the phone saying he was going to sue me and take it to court! I told him to feck off...
Anyway, first bidder contacted me next day and asked if he could collect in two weeks time as he was coming a long way and needed to arrange collection. He paid a £100 deposit on paypal and said he would pay cash on collection. I agreed and today he came and collected the car, we went to the bank together and I paid cash direct into my mates account. All good.
In the mean time I had received another call from the irate guy, sort of apologising and saying that if the deal fell through he would pay the £8000... he has phoned several times since to check and when I told him collection was today, he said he would call me on the night... he called earlier and I told him the deal was done... He asked me for the name of the buyer so he could approach him, but I declined... Que another VERY abusive call! he must of really wanted that car!
Anyway, I took some photos of the car and all the parts to go with it and listed it on Ebay as a 10 day auction. I had loads of watchers and on day 2 was contacted by a guy who wanted to see the car. We spoke on the phone and he arranged to come and see it on the weekend and travelled a 300 mile round trip to view it. I went to meet him at my mates house, he seemed a decent sort and took ages looking through the parts, making sure everything was there, checking the car over... He then asked if my mate would accept £4000 cash for the car which he had on him. It was tempting as it was well in excess of the price I expected it to make...
However, the bidding was already up to £3000 ish and as this guy couldn't take the car there and then (needed a trailer and a van for the spares) I declined the offer and asked him to bid. He tried to push me quite a bit, but I said no, and off he went back home.
In the mean time there had been several bids and the auction had reached just over £4000... but the first bidder was still in the lead as no one had out bid him and his automatic bids just kept outbidding all the others. Still no bid from the guy who had come to see it though... The auction stayed at just over £4000 right up to the last 10 seconds when it jumped to £8000!
Shortly after the auction ended I got a very irate call from the guy who had been to see it saying that I had rigged the auction as he had bid £8000 and lost it to the first bidder! Looks like the first bidder had also bid £8000 right at the beginning but as he was first, he won! the guy got VERY VERY angry on the phone saying he was going to sue me and take it to court! I told him to feck off...
Anyway, first bidder contacted me next day and asked if he could collect in two weeks time as he was coming a long way and needed to arrange collection. He paid a £100 deposit on paypal and said he would pay cash on collection. I agreed and today he came and collected the car, we went to the bank together and I paid cash direct into my mates account. All good.
In the mean time I had received another call from the irate guy, sort of apologising and saying that if the deal fell through he would pay the £8000... he has phoned several times since to check and when I told him collection was today, he said he would call me on the night... he called earlier and I told him the deal was done... He asked me for the name of the buyer so he could approach him, but I declined... Que another VERY abusive call! he must of really wanted that car!
I had this when selling my spitfire. Young lad wanting it for a daily drive, wanting to drive up from london blah blah. Sold to one very nice chap who had a good few years with it. Recieved a few phone calls from the youth to which he got told to p
s off in nice words, had the deal fell through i wouldn't of sold it him anyhow.
s off in nice words, had the deal fell through i wouldn't of sold it him anyhow.Why would you even entertain the guy after he was rude, aggressive and, basically, a tt to you the first time?
He sounds like an utter baby and I would be more than happy to tell him where to go after you have pocketed your 8 large.
I think you have made the right decision, dont give in to bullies!
t to you the first time?He sounds like an utter baby and I would be more than happy to tell him where to go after you have pocketed your 8 large.
I think you have made the right decision, dont give in to bullies!
I had all sorts of lunatics contacting me about an E Class I sold via Ebay, one even telling me that he fked my mother after I declined a silly offer for the car from him, and for the record these were all men of foreign origin/background that we're most abusive and ignorant
Lesson learned never use eBay to sell a car again
ked my mother after I declined a silly offer for the car from him, and for the record these were all men of foreign origin/background that we're most abusive and ignorant Lesson learned never use eBay to sell a car again
buzzer said:
Shortly after the auction ended I got a very irate call from the guy who had been to see it saying that I had rigged the auction as he had bid £8000 and lost it to the first bidder! Looks like the first bidder had also bid £8000 right at the beginning but as he was first, he won!
It's fairly weird the first bidder bidding a round amount (and such a large amount) straight off but for second bidder to bid a round amount is just daft.Deva Link said:
It's fairly weird the first bidder bidding a round amount (and such a large amount) straight off but for second bidder to bid a round amount is just daft.
Furthermore, presumably he's irate because the original bidder got it for the same as his maximum bid. But he doesn't know what the original bidder's maximum was. On eBay, if it's down to two bidders the final price will always be either your maximum (if you're second bidder at that amount) or your maximum + minimum increment (if you're first). It's tempting to think "but for another £2 I could've got that" but you don't know how far the other bidder will go.
FLASHG1981 said:
Get him to ring someone you know pretending to be the guy you sold it to to see how much he would be willing to pay to get the car? If its something ridiculous it might be worth buying it back and selling it to him.
This ^. Unbeknown to you it could be "worth" a lot more than 8k. See how much he's prepared to pay.
johnnyBv8 said:
greggy50 said:
Buyer may know something about the value of the car that others don't?
Never mind the buyer; none of us know anything about it unfortunately, as the OP still hasnt told us what the sodding car was!All I will say is a good example fetches £25k. I think he will need to spend a lot more than that to restore it.... Before I put it on eBay an auction company came to look at it and valued it at £2k, so they are more than happy!
Edited by buzzer on Wednesday 25th July 07:37
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