Oil price scandal

[doorman]

Do something or do nothing, but stop moaning about fuel prices if you do nothing, you can make the difference, please check this out and do your bit. YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!
http://fairfueluk.com/call_for_enquiry.html

[valiant]

Another petition?

How many are we up to now and has any of them made a jot of difference? (I know this sounds horribly apathetic but fuel prices will only ever go one way).

When oil prices go up it's down to increased demand for a scarce resource or it's the Chinese again. When oil prices drop it's down to currency fluctuations. Either way we will only ever pay more.

[SSBB]

doorman said:

Do something or do nothing, but stop moaning about fuel prices if you do nothing, you can make the difference, please check this out and do your bit. YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!
http://fairfueluk.com/call_for_enquiry.html

I'm not moaning. Don't really see much moaning on here about fuel prices tbh.

[doorman]

SSBB said:

doorman said:

Do something or do nothing, but stop moaning about fuel prices if you do nothing, you can make the difference, please check this out and do your bit. YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!
http://fairfueluk.com/call_for_enquiry.html

I'm not moaning. Don't really see much moaning on here about fuel prices tbh.

Thats just the sort of comment that the fuel company's want to see, Bravo

[PumpkinSteve]

I don't care about fuel prices either TBH. Of course I'd like prices to be lower, but I'd also like my food to be cheaper and The Beano to cost pennies like it used to. No amount of moaning is going to change rising prices.

[anonymous-user]

blame economics you do understand it is a world economy. Tax is never going to be reduced.

[Raize]

In my opinion fuel tax should be tripled so we can all drink each others tears and be much happier in general!

[deltashad]

The only way fuel prices will drop is if the majority stop driving. Then the losses are burdened to another consumable, maybe food, or clothes. Something that you enjoy but they decide is bad for you, could be Indian curries.

There's a great curry house near us which does buffet for six quid. It's splendid with a nice cold Kingfisher.

[chrisispringles]

Honestly, the effect of any manipulation of oil prices on the cost of petrol is negligible. A litre of crude oil costs about 35p at market rates, traders would need to be manipulating the value upwards by at least 40% for it to be noticeable and below 20% it will just get lost in the roundings. This is just a handy scapegoat for the government: 70% of the pump price goes straight to them whilst we bicker over fractions of a penny. If we want cheaper fuel we need less tax on it and this petition will do nothing about that, sadly no other one will either.

[wombat172a]

I think I'm actually resigned to the idea that fuel prices are going to continue steadily, and then more rapidly rising, until the commercially accessible oil runs out.

In the meantime I'm happy to burn it where and when I can

[anonymous-user]

wombat172a said:

I think I'm actually resigned to the idea that fuel prices are going to continue steadily, and then more rapidly rising, until the commercially accessible oil runs out.

In the meantime I'm happy to burn it where and when I can

Extraction costs are increasing and 2.5 billion users are coming online. 70 million users will make fk all difference.

[daemon]

doorman said:

SSBB said:

doorman said:

Do something or do nothing, but stop moaning about fuel prices if you do nothing, you can make the difference, please check this out and do your bit. YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!
http://fairfueluk.com/call_for_enquiry.html

I'm not moaning. Don't really see much moaning on here about fuel prices tbh.

Thats just the sort of comment that the fuel company's want to see, Bravo

Whilst oil prices are rising, the predominant issue is tax.

Tax revenue from fuel is falling as we're all driving more economical cars than we used to, therefore taxes on fuel has to be high and will get higher.

Reduce the tax there and it simply will appear somewhere else that you cant influence.

Therefore think for yourself and reduce your reliance on fossil fuels as soon as you can, rather than wait for some online petition to magically make fuel companies decide not to make billions.

[anonymous-user]

daemon said:

Whilst oil prices are rising, the predominant issue is tax.

Tax revenue from fuel is falling as we're all driving more economical cars than we used to, therefore taxes on fuel has to be high and will get higher.

Slightly flawed, move cars on road but sightly improved mpg, there is no decrease in total auto-mobile revenue.

[daemon]

billybob69 said:

daemon said:

Whilst oil prices are rising, the predominant issue is tax.

Tax revenue from fuel is falling as we're all driving more economical cars than we used to, therefore taxes on fuel has to be high and will get higher.

Slightly flawed, move cars on road but sightly improved mpg, there is no decrease in total auto-mobile revenue.

Well, its actually happening, therefore expect tax on fuel to do nothing but rise and raw fuel costs to rise as India and China develop.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/jul/08/tax-re...

http://www.thegreencarwebsite.co.uk/blog/index.php...

Edited by daemon on Sunday 29th July 22:41

[Lordbenny]

Download the AA July fuel price report.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuel/

We've got the most expensive fuel in Europe with the exception of Norway!!!

[daemon]

Lordbenny said:

Download the AA July fuel price report.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuel/

We've got the most expensive fuel in Europe, even more than Norway!!!

Hence make a concious effort to use less of the stuff...

[anonymous-user]

daemon said:

Well, its actually happening, therefore expect tax on fuel to do nothing but rise and raw fuel costs to rise as India and China develop.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/jul/08/tax-re...

That story is worthless. Petrol sales have decreased not due to tax, they are a inelastic priced product, demand is down, as less people are spending.

[tommy vercetti]

Do you think fuel prices will ever go down?

[daemon]

billybob69 said:

daemon said:

Well, its actually happening, therefore expect tax on fuel to do nothing but rise and raw fuel costs to rise as India and China develop.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/jul/08/tax-re...

That story is worthless. Petrol sales have decreased not due to tax, they are a inelastic priced product, demand is down, as less people are spending.

Fuel Tax revenue is down. Thats a fact. Thats all my point is. And from that we wont see Fuel tax reduced on the price of a litre of fuel, but we are likely to see it go UP.

Combine that with increased demand from developing nations and in terms of fuel price, we're screwed.

THEREFORE looking at - and implementing - ways to reduce our usage of fossil fuels on an individual basis is a far better way to get results than filling in yet ANOTHER online petition.

[Farm boy]

Lordbenny said:

Download the AA July fuel price report.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuel/

We've got the most expensive fuel in Europe with the exception of Norway!!!

Hmmm. Both us and Norway are oil producing nations. Doesn'tseem to do much good does it ?

How does (e.g. Portugal, Switzerland, Vatican) sell fuel at less than us - a producing nation. ?