Locking wheel nut, point question.
Locking wheel nut, point question.
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Jaroon

Original Poster:

1,441 posts

190 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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I've got a new car with locking wheel nuts and no key.

First question, Machine Mart and others offer a 2 nut Laser branded locking wheel nut remover at about £13. Should these do the trick or are they abit hit and miss?

Second question is, if these nuts are so easy to remove is there any point replacing them with more, or just regular nuts?

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

295 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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I've never used the Machine Mart remover, but I've taken a few locking wheel nuts off using other tools, and if you don't mind risking some paint scratches to the wheels (depending on wheel design) it's easy enough to do.

Locking wheel nuts work by making it easier to steal someone else's wheels instead of yours. So they are worth it, but they won't stop really expensive wheels going missing (not least because the key is usually in the car).

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Yep they are deterrent and might slow someone up a bit. Bit like having a door lock on your front door. wink

rosscobmw

350 posts

188 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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I've had to remove ones from my 205 with a hammer and chisel after my key broke, never used a proper tool for it. I gave up on locking wheel keys after i broke my 3rd one.
As said I've never heard of anyone local having their wheels nicked. I now normally have 4 17mm bolts and one 18mm bolt. Just to slow them down if anyone was to try and half-inch them

Jaroon

Original Poster:

1,441 posts

190 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Thanks for the replies chaps.

This could be a fail at uploading my first pic. Plus an excuss to put up my new Legacy spec B following several years in snotters. THB I may shed a tear when the volvo goes tomorrow, it's done me proud.

Yep fail at the pic

Jaroon

Original Poster:

1,441 posts

190 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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I'll try some of my specialist techno wizardry in a bit but if the internet breaks don't blame me.

The Subaru is a cracker thus far (everything crossed). Needs some low level tiding and tyres but it's 05, FSH (but ready for one) and 90k. Fleabay punt £2372. Too good to be true, we'll see?

Flat6er

1,763 posts

240 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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If they are mcguard nuts, then their customer service is excellent. I took a photo of the locking nut, and paid something like 10 quid, for them to send me a replacement key within a week.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
Yep they are deterrent and might slow someone up a bit. Bit like having a really unrelable door lock on your front door with the key hanging on a string behind the window. wink
EFA

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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When i lost mine i went to my local tyre depot and the had a bucket full of keys took about two minutes to find the correct one problem solved , worth a try

FoundOnRoadside

436 posts

174 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
What kind is it ? If it's an older car you should be able to smack a socket onto the locking nut and wrench it off. Worked on my XJ6.
Done it on most of my Vauxhalls. Crappy Vx OEM nuts that always jam up, then the key disintegrates. This time I told them I didn't want locking nuts near the car.

Just a spot of weld on the spinning collar of the nut, then hammer an old socket on, breaker bar, job done.

RikZR

677 posts

179 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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17mm impact socket and club hammer, works a treat! Had to do this to my zr when I first brought it as it came with no wheel locking keys!

Jamie1952

2 posts

167 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Think I may have a serious problem with wheel on my Ford Fusion.

Front wheel has to come off, the McCard type Ford Locking Wheel Nut key is damage along with the actual wheel nut, tried the Halfords Laser kit - complete rubbish.

Tried an old 17mm socket, tried drilling it so in desperation I took a hammer & chisel to it, lock nut has started breaking up & not much left to get the chisel on.

Any advice would by most welcome.

Fastra

4,289 posts

239 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Jamie1952 said:
Think I may have a serious problem with wheel on my Ford Fusion.
If it's a Mcgard type, with the 'loose' outer sheath then you'll struggle with knocking a smaller socket on.
I tried it a few years ago and all I ended up doing was getting the socket stuck on and it still revovling!


What you need to do is find someone that has one of these kits - give them a ring and see if there's anyone in your area:
(some AA vans apparently have them too)

http://www.dynomec.co.uk/



I was lucky and found a local garage that had it - it consists of a soft metal 'key' piece that's hammered into the locking wheel nut and forms itself into a new key, you then simply put a handle on the new key and un-do it as normal.
It's still hard work to form the new key and takes plenty of arm work.
The garage charged me a tenner.


smile


mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Fastra said:
Jamie1952 said:
Think I may have a serious problem with wheel on my Ford Fusion.
If it's a Mcgard type, with the 'loose' outer sheath then you'll struggle with knocking a smaller socket on.
I tried it a few years ago and all I ended up doing was getting the socket stuck on and it still revovling!


What you need to do is find someone that has one of these kits - give them a ring and see if there's anyone in your area:
(some AA vans apparently have them too)

http://www.dynomec.co.uk/



I was lucky and found a local garage that had it - it consists of a soft metal 'key' piece that's hammered into the locking wheel nut and forms itself into a new key, you then simply put a handle on the new key and un-do it as normal.
It's still hard work to form the new key and takes plenty of arm work.
The garage charged me a tenner.


smile
Video in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

shoehorn

686 posts

173 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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I`ve had a dynomec kit for a few years and it has never failed yet on over 200 cars.
Some oddball stuff like jaguar nuts need an extra tool from those supplied in the kit but 99% can be removed with what is supplied in the kit.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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The post above (introducing that kit) indicates that the key is "soft". Is this right? Didn't look that way in the video. If it was soft the surely it would be consumable? Is it or not?

chris1roll

2,050 posts

274 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Fecking things, I always take them off all of my cars ASAP.
Do very little really to prevent theft, but cause a right pain at the side of the road in the dark in the pissing rain when all you have is a wheel brace and a broken/lost key.

petrolsniffer

2,551 posts

204 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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A relic from the 90s my 205 has them been meaning to replace them.

Unless you own a bently its unlikely to find your car on bricks anymore and as others have said if they really want them they'll take them.

22rgt B Squadron

339 posts

167 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Erwin make a set of nut/bolt 'grip' sockets. Once hammered onto the offending nut these grip tighter as theyre turned. Once the nut has been removed just grip it in a vice and knock the nut out from inside. Amazon, Screwfix and Frosts do them for around £20 a set. Ive had a set for years and wouldnt be without them.

Jamie1952

2 posts

167 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Thanks Guys, trouble is in stupidity I started to chisel it off & really 'F' it up, not much left to stick anything on - drill bit wont even touch it.

Laser kit from Halfords is a load of cr@p, lock nut isn't the spinning type & the Laser socket just doesn't bite into the locknut.