Well my cars been cloned, parking tickets in Newham
Well my cars been cloned, parking tickets in Newham
Author
Discussion

Herman Toothrot

Original Poster:

6,702 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
quotequote all
So other than this off direct.gov any advise on what to do?

direct gov said:
If you think your vehicle has been cloned
Cloning involves the copying of the identity of a similar (non-stolen) vehicle already on the road. Criminals find an exact match of the
car
they have stolen and replace the number plates on the vehicle with false number plates.
If you suspect your vehicle has been cloned, the following points will help you avoid becoming a victim of further crime.
What you need to do
If you think you have been the victim of vehicle cloning you should:
• return any fines or correspondence to the issuing authorities providing them with any documentary evidence you have
• write to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA), Swansea, SA99 1ZA or fax them on 01792 783 083, they will record your correspondence.
• contact the police, it is a matter for them to trace and prosecute the culprit to prevent this illegal activity from continuing
Edited by Herman Toothrot on Tuesday 31st July 20:58

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

190 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
quotequote all
Letters to "Honest John" on this subject ,he suggests you buy a cheap private

plate asap and then the other reg is obviously on the wrong car.

Suppose it depends how long the cloner wants to get away with getting fines

for someone else.

cptsideways

13,864 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
quotequote all
DVLA should be issuing new plates for cloned cars, though they won't. Are the fines from one area, might be worth checking on google maps for the locations & inform the police in that area.

4key

11,908 posts

175 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
quotequote all
Yeah, id say the first thing to do would be go to the cop shop and get a crime number so that you can quote it in reply to any pcn's nip's petrol theft ect.

Herman Toothrot

Original Poster:

6,702 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
quotequote all
Ok just bought a private plate smile I figure its going to cause me hassle so if this increases the chances of the scum bag getting caught its worth it. Also reported to Thames Valley police who were very helpful and have flagged the current plate so said if its seen on the road car will be pulled over, no bother for me as I hardly use it.

Edited by Herman Toothrot on Tuesday 31st July 21:38

CraigyMc

18,363 posts

263 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
quotequote all
I always thought the cheapest sort of private plate was about £250. If you don't mind - what did you pay?

C

Herman Toothrot

Original Poster:

6,702 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
quotequote all
CraigyMc said:
I always thought the cheapest sort of private plate was about £250. If you don't mind - what did you pay?

C
£250

My 1st and 2nd initial then normal year for car marker and then 1st three digits of my surname so not too bad really even though I said I'd never get one. Worth it I think, police said it was a good idea as they'll pull whatevers sporting the current reg over so if I was to carry on driving round with the current reg that be me getting pulled over, they also now know as I've told them that I'm changing the reg if they do spot my old one its the scumbag. Plus any future fines will be met with "that reg isn't in use" by the DVLA.

Herman Toothrot

Original Poster:

6,702 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
Just to follow on from this had a letter today demanding £2530 from Newham council for the release fee for my car that got towed...

My cars happily sat on my drive sporting its new reg :-)

I did phone the pound and the scum had obviously got my reg from somewhere as it was on the correct model car down to colour. I bought my car from London so can only assume it was an "on the street" copying of the reg rather than internet sourced photo as I do try to avoid posting pics with the plate showing.

4key

11,908 posts

175 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
Winner, let the police know otherwise newham will just have it crushed. Bit of luck its either registered to whoever was on the theive or someone may get their stolen car back.

TheTurbonator

2,792 posts

178 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
CraigyMc said:
I always thought the cheapest sort of private plate was about £250. If you don't mind - what did you pay?

C
The cheapest ones on the DVLA are £250 but you can get ones from other companies and auction companies for less than £100.

BuzzLightyear

1,426 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
4key said:
Winner, let the police know otherwise newham will just have it crushed. Bit of luck its either registered to whoever was on the theive or someone may get their stolen car back.
This!
Must be able to get the correct ID of the car from the VIN no. etc (unless it's a ringer, I suppose. Or not registered to the owner / driver...)

Beeby

304 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
TheTurbonator said:
CraigyMc said:
I always thought the cheapest sort of private plate was about £250. If you don't mind - what did you pay?

C
The cheapest ones on the DVLA are £250 but you can get ones from other companies and auction companies for less than £100.
Indeed. This site's cheapest ones are £30 plus DOT fee.

http://www.r4v.co.uk/searchgallery.php?c=che

KB_S1

5,967 posts

256 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
How much is the car worth?
Could have a cheap set of spares at least.

Pixelpeep

8,682 posts

169 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
put your old plate back on and fill up with petrol quick!

getmecoat

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

260 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
BuzzLightyear said:
4key said:
Winner, let the police know otherwise newham will just have it crushed. Bit of luck its either registered to whoever was on the theive or someone may get their stolen car back.
This!
Must be able to get the correct ID of the car from the VIN no. etc (unless it's a ringer, I suppose. Or not registered to the owner / driver...)
The 'proper car' is registered to the OP; the 'other car' has a pair of plates that were made up with no ID at an autojumble etc and whose 'registration mark' refers to the OP's vehicle. Dead easy to do - just spot a car that matches one's own at a quick glance, note the registration mark and get the plates made up - and then make regular checks online that the car is insured and the registration mark still exists. This is how I would do it anyway... Not that I ever would, but it's ridiculously easy smile .

The 'proper car' is the one Newham are referring to, and it is the OP who faces things like a visit from a bailiff etc etc. Newham want their 30 pieces of silver; they don't care about the situation as long as they get the money frown . OP therefore needs to continue to be proactive and nip this in what remains of the bud.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

173 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
Pixelpeep said:
put your old plate back on and fill up with petrol quick!

getmecoat
thumbup

matthias73

2,901 posts

177 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
Pixelpeep said:
put your old plate back on and fill up with petrol quick!

getmecoat
hahahahahhaha hehe

mgtony

4,192 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
Surely now the whereabouts of the car is known, the police will need to check it to see if it's a stolen vehicle?

4key

11,908 posts

175 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
aw51 121565 said:
BuzzLightyear said:
4key said:
Winner, let the police know otherwise newham will just have it crushed. Bit of luck its either registered to whoever was on the theive or someone may get their stolen car back.
This!
Must be able to get the correct ID of the car from the VIN no. etc (unless it's a ringer, I suppose. Or not registered to the owner / driver...)
The 'proper car' is registered to the OP; the 'other car' has a pair of plates that were made up with no ID at an autojumble etc and whose 'registration mark' refers to the OP's vehicle. Dead easy to do - just spot a car that matches one's own at a quick glance, note the registration mark and get the plates made up - and then make regular checks online that the car is insured and the registration mark still exists. This is how I would do it anyway... Not that I ever would, but it's ridiculously easy smile .

The 'proper car' is the one Newham are referring to, and it is the OP who faces things like a visit from a bailiff etc etc. Newham want their 30 pieces of silver; they don't care about the situation as long as they get the money frown . OP therefore needs to continue to be proactive and nip this in what remains of the bud.
Um, unless Im reading it wrong then no..

Herman Toothrot said:
Just to follow on from this had a letter today demanding £2530 from Newham council for the release fee for my car that got towed...

My cars happily sat on my drive sporting its new reg :-)
The dodgy car with the fake plates has been impounded by newham council, the op's car is sitting on his driveway sporting a recently bought private plate. Newham council have contacted the op as it is his old number plate that is on the car that they have impounded, and have done for quite some time looking at the fee involved. Unless the op contacts the police then yes, the council will probably crush/sell the car that they are currently holding on to and send the bailiffs round. wink

ARAF

20,759 posts

250 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
quotequote all
aw51 121565 said:
Newham want their 30 pieces of silver; they don't care about the situation as long as they get the money frown . OP therefore needs to continue to be proactive and nip this in what remains of the bud.
If it is a stolen car, and the police trace the correct owner, that owner can also expect Newham council to send them a bill for the £2.3k. eek