Cheap "Performance" Diesels?

[Jakg]

Not a "what car" thread, but can anyone think of any "performance" diesels, that are less than ~£5k?

I'm thinking of cars like the MG ZT CDTi, Vauxhall Astra 888 CDTi etc...

[mnkiboy]

BMW 330D, Leon Cupra 150 TDI, Golf GTD 150 TDI, Fabia VRS 130.

[FoundOnRoadside]

Astra/Vectra 1.9CDTI with a £200 remap. Alfa 156 1.9JTDm with same remap (same engine). Maybe 156 2.4JTD?

[StottyZr]

The 888s are under 5k now?

[s_zigmond]

FoundOnRoadside said:

Astra/Vectra 1.9CDTI with a £200 remap. Alfa 156 1.9JTDm with same remap (same engine). Maybe 156 2.4JTD?

As above, but with a hybrid turbo, Water/meth and FMIC for 250bhp + and 450 lbft.

How much are VRS's now?

Edited by s_zigmond on Thursday 2nd August 11:25

[VolvoT5]

I'm not sure I would consider a MG ZT CDTI a 'performance' car, even for a diesel.

Leon TDI cupra? Golf GT TDI 130 or 150 model.... might even get the newer shaped ones of those for 5k.

BMW 330d or 530d as well.

[MycroftWard]

I've a Golf GT TDI PD150, goes pretty well and returns high forties mpg, a decent allrounder.

[BorkFactor]

I would have thought you could get a decent 330d for that, and then put the change towards blanking the swirl flaps and remapping it?

[danyeates]

Skoda Octavia VRS TDI. Should get a high mileage 06 car for that.

[T16OLE]

BorkFactor said:

I would have thought you could get a decent 330d for that, and then put the change towards blanking the swirl flaps and remapping it?

330d`s dont have swirl flaps

[Toffer]

Maybe a daft suggestion...but would you not be better off buying an economical performance petrol car? Lower fuel and maintenance costs and more choice? Just a thought.

[BorkFactor]

T16OLE said:

330d`s dont have swirl flaps

Do they not? I thought all E46 diesels did?

In that case, I stand corrected. Every day is a school day here

[300bhp/ton]

Have any car makers actually made a performance diesel car yet? Closest I've seen is the 335d, but since it's auto only I'm not sure it can truly be called a performance car.

[Spanna]

Ibiza Cupra TDi. 160bhp and quoted at 7.6 secs to 60 IIRC.

[BorkFactor]

300bhp/ton said:

Have any car makers actually made a performance diesel car yet? Closest I've seen is the 335d, but since it's auto only I'm not sure it can truly be called a performance car.

What about that M550xd that BMW released recently? Not even close to the OP's budget though!

I think the term "performance diesel" is used to describe a diesel with a decent bit of shove, rather than a conventional performance orientated engine, if that makes sense.

[KevinA4quattro]

300bhp/ton said:

Have any car makers actually made a performance diesel car yet? Closest I've seen is the 335d, but since it's auto only I'm not sure it can truly be called a performance car.

Depends on your definition of performance. If it is 'the fastest model in the range' then Skoda Fabia vRS Mk1 is it.

[RWD cossie wil]

E39 530d , intercooler, decat & remap gives 280-290Bhp & over 450lbs of torque!

[RenesisEvo]

300bhp/ton said:

Have any car makers actually made a performance diesel car yet?

I would nominate the Mk1 Fabia VRS as a performance diesel, there was no petrol equivalent.

EDIT: about 3 seconds too slow posting, see above.

[anonymous-user]

s_zigmond said:

As above, but with a hybrid turbo, Water/meth and FMIC for 250bhp + and 450 lbft.

That's an awful lot of petrol tied up in those mods, not to mention the fact that you will be spending quite a bit of time and effort managing clutches and gearboxes. Just buy a better car in the first place?

[Jakg]

StottyZr said:

The 888s are under 5k now?

Not yet - but I didn't want a bunch of uber new suggestons (i.e. I want cars I could realistically afford now or in a few years!)

VolvoT5 said:

I'm not sure I would consider a MG ZT CDTI a 'performance' car, even for a diesel.

It wasnt the performance I was thinking of, more of the "focus". I.E. the 888 has fancy brakes / suspension...

RWD cossie wil said:

E39 530d , intercooler, decat & remap gives 280-290Bhp & over 450lbs of torque!

o.O I had no idea they went that high (with mods)