Why aren't there many custom cars any more?
Why aren't there many custom cars any more?
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Thankyou4calling

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10,999 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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When i first started driving, early and mid eighties I loved them. Bought all the mags, used to go to the show at Alexandra Palace with my brother in his Cortina. Some great stuff, Bedford CF's with lovely interiors and murals, Roof chopped saloons, Side pipes, Wolfrace wheels, Jacked up rear ends. Did youngsters in those days have more imagination compared to the max power of later years or does it still go on?

kingboyk

17 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Another thing that's gone missing from that era is CB radio!

TheEnd

15,370 posts

218 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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That's the way things are going, cars are seen as something you take a loan out for, cars older than 3-4 years are old and always break down, so more people buy new hatchbacks at £300 a month.

These cars end up being kept standard, less people work on their own cars, and there is little individuality left.

Thankyou4calling

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10,999 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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I know you can get some pretty decent stuff as OEM now but back in the day there really was quite a cult movement.

DrTre

12,957 posts

262 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Surely what was called customising is now modding, and thriving among various scenes.

HVAC MATT

1,116 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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kingboyk said:
Another thing that's gone missing from that era is CB radio!
I had one till about 2 months ago.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Thankyou4calling said:
When i first started driving, early and mid eighties I loved them. Bought all the mags, used to go to the show at Alexandra Palace with my brother in his Cortina. Some great stuff, Bedford CF's with lovely interiors and murals, Roof chopped saloons, Side pipes, Wolfrace wheels, Jacked up rear ends. Did youngsters in those days have more imagination compared to the max power of later years or does it still go on?
I think it still exists. Remember for each show car you mention back in the day. There were probably 10 home built ones by oiks using Hammerite.




Today there are still plenty of well built and modified cars. Although different mods. No point jacking up the back of a FWD hatch and slapping dragster style wheels on the rear axle is there. The "chavs" in the chav chariots are no different. For every 10 bad examples there is probably a very well customised vehicle rolling about.

On a different note, insurance costs, SVA/IVA constraints and keeping a cars identity have maybe had an impact on certain customisations. Also the social unacceptability of something truly wild and outrageous.

smn159

16,007 posts

247 months

supertouring

2,228 posts

263 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Insurance cost cannot of helped.

C.A.R.

3,992 posts

218 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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supertouring said:
Insurance cost cannot of helped.
Surely got to be this?

Modern cars are harder to fiddle with because everything is integrated as well. Change the radio? Not as easy as it used to be...

FourWheelDrift

92,311 posts

314 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Every custom magazine in the late 70s early 80s had at least one of these in it.



These are the modern day equivalent.




Different times. In the 70s-80s it was ride heights, wolfrace wheels and resprays (flames usually) today it's bolt on plastic.

Deluded

4,968 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Defo down to insurance these days.

Insurance is bad enough for younguns on a standard car, let alone anything thats been fettled with. Modders these days tend to be either kids with more money than sense (or just not delaring mods) or older people with a passion for it. To me it seems the quality of modded cars is far, far higher than it used to be because of this. Far less younguns throwing money at halfords to get the latest ripspeed crap.

The scenes have drastically died down. I rarely see anything more modded than a set of alloys these days.


300bhp/ton

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220 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Deluded said:
The scenes have drastically died down. I rarely see anything more modded than a set of alloys these days.
Odd I see a lot, quite varied too. I admit nothing quite in the realm like that jacked up Vauxhall. But engine, suspension, interior, exterior mods. Some off the shelf custom items, some home made.

It's hugely popular to customise 4x4's these days - proper 4x4's Defender's, Disco's SJ's and Jimny's.

JonnyFive

29,903 posts

219 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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The 'scene' is abit quite divided at the moment.. Theres either full on show cars, or theres shockingly bad 'modified' cars. I use the term modified lightly as some really should have been left alone.

It's died alot since 2005-2008, but is still going.

You used to be able to go to a car meet in a carpark and the Police would just sit at the entrance and stop any trouble.. These days you get kicked out of the carparks, even if you're only sat with mates and no music, not causing trouble.. Rather than driving around the town being a . If the Police worked with the organisers and found suitable locations, had a few cars at the meet to make sure nothing stupid was going on, the 'scene' would be far better and there would be alot more respect for the BiB.

spoodler

2,306 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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There is a thriving scene for old cars.
If you look in the right places you'll find that jacked up Cortinas are still being built. The scene has progressed tho' and you've got to remember that this style was as much of a fashion statement as an afro, loon pants, roller disco or Abba. After the jack up kits came pro street, Cal look, etc. now an awful lot of the same guys are into rat rods/nostalgia rods.
There's also a thriving scene for "Retro rides", which is arguably more accessible and attractive to the younger lads - '70s cars, often Japanese and often with modern running gear - think '78 Celica/'90s Celica running gear.
Among my little group of mates and folk I know, we have my 4.2 Jag' powered '36 Austin ('70s built show rod), a pro street V8 '57 Popular, a V8 FA Victor gasser, tuned Triumph Herald, TR7 V8, Cosworth Capri, 350bhp Impreza powered Subaru MV, 2.5l VW splitty rat, and loads of other stuff inc. a Mk3 Cortina with a jacked rear, sidepipes, Wolfies, an Essex V6 and metallic purple paint, owned by a lad in his early twenties...

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Because there's only one Andy Saunders?

NotDave

20,951 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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C.A.R. said:
Surely got to be this?

Modern cars are harder to fiddle with because everything is integrated as well. Change the radio? Not as easy as it used to be...
Which being an audio geek is MASSIVELY frustrating and borderline stops me from looking at newer cars

DanDC5

20,015 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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spoodler said:
a Mk3 Cortina with a jacked rear, sidepipes, Wolfies, an Essex V6 and metallic purple paint, owned by a lad in his early twenties...
IMO that looks as bad as any new modern hatch with a stupid bodykit.

Streetrod

6,484 posts

236 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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The Hotrod and Custom car scene are very much alive and kicking. You just have to look at the number of very successful custom shops that are doing a roaring trade.

The thing is the people who are involved are the same people that like me were involved 30 years ago. We all learned are skills on cars from the 50's and 60's which compared to cars of today’s you could happily modify with your junior tool kit from Halfords.

Today due to the internet and the huge aftermarket (Currently worth multiply billions) that has built up in the States you can now build a brand new 55 Chevy replica without a single part produced in 1955, and this can be done with a huge number of desirable cars now

The Scene as I said is in great shape, the modders on the other hand of Saxo's etc seem to be on the wane

Wattsie

1,161 posts

231 months

Thursday 2nd August 2012
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Really? I think the scenes have just changed a little - look at the VAG scene now. The whole slammed brand new Golfs with rusty looking bodywork is a recent thing and seems to be massive if you're into that.

Look at shows like Fast show and USC, there's still plenty of a following. It's just the mainstream Max Power type scene has died down, probably since the people who bought into that are all grown up to fast-out-of-the-box cars these days and todays younglings either aren't into cars because of prohibitive insurance costs or just buy boggo hatches on finance.