Grand Cherokee Moose Test

[2.5pi]

Not sure if this has been posted but Jeep have a major problem;

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/jeepmoosetest-part4/

Scary

[MagnaJeep]

Great way to find a solution for the problem, calling the people incompetent who do these tests daily.
Didn't Dacia have the same problem with a Logan, caused by oem tyres?

[GravelBen]

IIRC (from when this was actually recent news) neither Chrysler's engineers or the magazine that did it could replicate the result in further testing. Chrysler were very keen to find out what had caused it, the best explanation anyone cold come up with might have been a glitch in the stability/anti-roll software?

Edited by GravelBen on Friday 10th August 12:54

[2.5pi]

GravelBen said:

IIRC (from when this was actually recent news) neither Chrysler's engineers or the magazine that did it could replicate the result in further testing. Chrysler were very keen to find out what had caused it, the best explanation anyone cold come up with might have been a glitch in the stability/anti-roll software?

Edited by GravelBen on Friday 10th August 12:54

On the video they show the Chrysler engineers interrogating the ECU and then repeating the test 7 times all with the same disastrous result

[900T-R]

Not a single blow out... 6 blow outs in 7 tries IIRC.

[MissChief]

Wasn't the car laoded up with the combined weight of four NFL linebackers and enough luggage for a three week stay in the Arctic as sandbags in the boot or something?

[300bhp/ton]

Has anyone ever tried the Moose test with a superbike? Would it be any safer?

[Krikkit]

MissChief said:

Wasn't the car laoded up with the combined weight of four NFL linebackers and enough luggage for a three week stay in the Arctic as sandbags in the boot or something?

But still less than the rated weight for the vehicle - regardless of how you slice it, that's dangerous. 5 lardy passengers and a boot full of luggage can easily get close, especially in its home market.

[900T-R]

300bhp/ton said:

Has anyone ever tried the Moose test with a superbike? Would it be any safer?

I wouldn't think emergency lane changes would be such an issue with something as narrow as a bike...

[DeadMeat_UK]

I didn't read the article, but I'm assuming the content proves a theory.

My friend has a Grand Cherokee and his girlfriend is in fact a moose. I told him he should have bought a sports car.

[900T-R]

A moose test in Sweden, yesterday

[DeadMeat_UK]

Krikkit said:

MissChief said:

Wasn't the car laoded up with the combined weight of four NFL linebackers and enough luggage for a three week stay in the Arctic as sandbags in the boot or something?

But still less than the rated weight for the vehicle - regardless of how you slice it, that's dangerous. 5 lardy passengers and a boot full of luggage can easily get close, especially in its home market.

Agreed. I've seen them turn up at ski resorts (and in fact loaded similar hire cars up with ski gear and people). I doubt we were far off this max weight, also with ski racks on the roof or roof boxes you could make the CoG even higher.

Scary.

[300bhp/ton]

900T-R said:

I wouldn't think emergency lane changes would be such an issue with something as narrow as a bike...

Would be if a mouse stepped out in front of you on a single carriageway road.

[KB_S1]

Very poor results.
Not even particularly high speed, certainly wouldn't expect the tyre to come off rim.

[GTIR]

I thought its an "Elk test"?

[Krikkit]

DeadMeat_UK said:

Krikkit said:

MissChief said:

Wasn't the car laoded up with the combined weight of four NFL linebackers and enough luggage for a three week stay in the Arctic as sandbags in the boot or something?

But still less than the rated weight for the vehicle - regardless of how you slice it, that's dangerous. 5 lardy passengers and a boot full of luggage can easily get close, especially in its home market.

Agreed. I've seen them turn up at ski resorts (and in fact loaded similar hire cars up with ski gear and people). I doubt we were far off this max weight, also with ski racks on the roof or roof boxes you could make the CoG even higher.

Scary.

Good point - filling the boot with sand has kept the CoG down already, put real people in there, coupled with a boot and roofbox with heavy crap in and that'll raise it up further for comedy handling.

[900T-R]

300bhp/ton said:

Would be if a mouse stepped out in front of you on a single carriageway road.

A person on a bike would require just the gentlest nudge to end up either side of the mouse, a bit different when you're driving a 2 metres wide SUV...

[aizvara]

GTIR said:

I thought its an "Elk test"?

Swedish people say Älg, UK people say Elk or Moose. US people say Moose.

[300bhp/ton]

Krikkit said:

Good point - filling the boot with sand has kept the CoG down already, put real people in there, coupled with a boot and roofbox with heavy crap in and that'll raise it up further for comedy handling.

I'd still like to see such an evasion test though, I suspect we won't as my hunch is the bike may well fair no better than the Jeep or Merc A Class did.

[Krikkit]

No, probably not, but bikes are an inherently more risky thing to take out onto the road. This is a large vehicle no doubt sold as being safe.

Should we have bike crash tests too?