Boxster 2.7 [987] (05-) - Why not?
Discussion
Prof Prolapse said:
As per thread title these seem to be an absolute bargain at the moment approx 10 grand for a seven year old car with full history.
What could possibly go wrong? I'm assuming these are less diserable because its the lower output engine?
Or am I missing something?
I doubt there's really any more risk than almost all other sports/performance cars. Personally I think even the early 204hp 2.5's look stonking value for money. I was never a Boxster fan, but I could well be converted these days.What could possibly go wrong? I'm assuming these are less diserable because its the lower output engine?
Or am I missing something?
I quite like the newer shape and, this may be absolute b
ks, but I heard the revision gave them an opportunity to sort out a few quirks which should help avoid big bills. (Although confirmation of this would be great).
I don't mind a few problems. I just don't want the engine to explode as happened to a friends 996.
ks, but I heard the revision gave them an opportunity to sort out a few quirks which should help avoid big bills. (Although confirmation of this would be great).I don't mind a few problems. I just don't want the engine to explode as happened to a friends 996.
300bhp/ton said:
I doubt there's really any more risk than almost all other sports/performance cars. Personally I think even the early 204hp 2.5's look stonking value for money. I was never a Boxster fan, but I could well be converted these days.
It depends what you're comparing it to. They share a lot of common components with the 911, so it's not like replacing you're MX5 bits if something goes pop.I do agree, though. They look like a bit of a bargain and being a Porsche they should be more than up to the job of everyday use.
Chris71 said:
Being a Porsche they should be more than up to the job of everyday use.
The water cooled Porsche engines from that era don't have a great reputation for reliability.Do a search for RMS and IMS.
Having said that if you budget for the worst and it never happens, happy days.
trickywoo said:
The water cooled Porsche engines from that era don't have a great reputation for reliability.
Do a search for RMS and IMS.
Having said that if you budget for the worst and it never happens, happy days.
You see I was under the impression the RMS and IMS were limited to earlier engines?Do a search for RMS and IMS.
Having said that if you budget for the worst and it never happens, happy days.
Prof Prolapse said:
I don't mind a few problems. I just don't want the engine to explode as happened to a friends 996.
Did it actually explode?RMS seems a big topic, but from what I can tell all it is, is a tiny tiny oil leak. Really not worth bothering about and certainly won't cause an engine to explode. Hell a 100% perfect Land Rover probably drops more oil.
IMS failure does seem a bigger deal. But I suspect slightly blown out of proportion on the web. If it was as common as some claim then I'm sure there'd be almost no used Porches at all. There are a few things you can do to prevent it, it does cost but isn't any worse than a cambelt change kind of cost.
I was very close to buying one last year, I just couldn't find the right spec with the right miles. Lower mileage ones that I was after seemed to attract a considerable premium, no idea if it is the same now.
My friend had one which I have driven, superb car great chassis and I love the looks, in the end I bought a Z4M and am happy I did, I think I would have become bored of the performance in the 2.7 quite quickly so IMO the one to go for would be the S.
I'm still no ruling out owning one though and they are great value.
ETA I've just had a quick look on autotrader and half the cars I was looking at in October / November are still for sale
My friend had one which I have driven, superb car great chassis and I love the looks, in the end I bought a Z4M and am happy I did, I think I would have become bored of the performance in the 2.7 quite quickly so IMO the one to go for would be the S.
I'm still no ruling out owning one though and they are great value.
ETA I've just had a quick look on autotrader and half the cars I was looking at in October / November are still for sale
Edited by Urban Sports on Tuesday 14th August 10:09
no-worries88 said:
MX5...
Had 2. Great cars but time to move on.300bhp/ton said:
Prof Prolapse said:
I don't mind a few problems. I just don't want the engine to explode as happened to a friends 996.
Did it actually explode?RMS seems a big topic, but from what I can tell all it is, is a tiny tiny oil leak. Really not worth bothering about and certainly won't cause an engine to explode. Hell a 100% perfect Land Rover probably drops more oil.
IMS failure does seem a bigger deal. But I suspect slightly blown out of proportion on the web. If it was as common as some claim then I'm sure there'd be almost no used Porches at all. There are a few things you can do to prevent it, it does cost but isn't any worse than a cambelt change kind of cost.
A quick google suggests that 05/06 2.7 engines featured a revised IMS, with a much lower failure rate?
I think this place is in the US and is evidently selling their own product. But I found it quite informative: http://www.lnengineering.com/ims.html
Prof Prolapse said:
Umm better do my homework. Would be a pain in the arse if I had to pull the bloody engine out.
One years warranty cover comes in at £875 for a 2006 boxster. I think we can safely say they've had to cover some big bills in the past...
I think this is partly because Porsche policy is lets replace the entire engine, rather than actually fix it. So in some cases some cars have had multiple engine swap, often for nothing more than a leaky seal. But this hits the headline figures and makes people panic.One years warranty cover comes in at £875 for a 2006 boxster. I think we can safely say they've had to cover some big bills in the past...
RMS I personally wouldn't even give a first thought too, let alone a 2nd thought.
IMS I don't see as being any more risky than oil consumption on Celica, VANOS issues on an M3 or a multitude of other problems 90% of the auto industry suffer from.
300bhp/ton said:
IMS I don't see as being any more risky than oil consumption on Celica, VANOS issues on an M3 or a multitude of other problems 90% of the auto industry suffer from.
Yes, you're probably right.Its the realms of internet paranoia rearing their head again. If my 10 minutes of googling are to be believed the IMS failure only happens in 10% of cars and was addressed by Porsche in ~2006.
There's an engine builder 200 yards from my front door anyway and even if it costs a few grand I don't really give a s
t so long as it happens after a year or so. F1GTRUeno said:
I could afford to buy and insure one if I saved up, but couldn't afford to run one I'd imagine.
Would love one though.
I think thats why these cars are so cheap to be honest. Look at XJRs/S4s/7 series as an extreme example, they drop like 50 grand in 7 years. Would love one though.
I think fear of bills as well puts people off as 300 rightfully says. The internet doesn't help with this.
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