What's a good track day car in terms of re-sale value?
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Hello,
Want to spend about £2500 on a track day car I want something that is easy to re-sell in 6 months?
What's the current 'in car' track day that PHers are looking for?
Alot of Clios about for sale so think they hard to re-sell?
Have an MX5 already
Maybe Civic Type R?
Or any other ideas?
My criteria is its got to be modified, stiff and fast, but not too hard on consumables so not an Imprezza etc and less than 2.5K and above all - EASY TO RE-SELL!
Want to spend about £2500 on a track day car I want something that is easy to re-sell in 6 months?
What's the current 'in car' track day that PHers are looking for?
Alot of Clios about for sale so think they hard to re-sell?
Have an MX5 already
Maybe Civic Type R?
Or any other ideas?
My criteria is its got to be modified, stiff and fast, but not too hard on consumables so not an Imprezza etc and less than 2.5K and above all - EASY TO RE-SELL!
How about a Nissan 200 sx 2.0 turbo, lsd, modified for track use with coil overs, uprated anti roll bars, uprated boost /decat/induction etc runs a safe 240 bhp.
Still nice day to day road car with aircon, stereo, leather etc but has been set up for track days, but without making it look like a boy racer car. FSH 85k miles.
it looks just like this but is a manual version
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
Still nice day to day road car with aircon, stereo, leather etc but has been set up for track days, but without making it look like a boy racer car. FSH 85k miles.
it looks just like this but is a manual version
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
Edited by rallycross on Friday 17th August 14:42
talktohenry1 said:
yes I know that only too well... but you missing the point I want something that has decent re-sale demand and where it doesn't drop like a rocket in value in comparison to others!
When you find such a car with these wondrous qualities, please inform the rest of us!talktohenry1 said:
My criteria is its got to be modified, stiff and fast, but not too hard on consumables so not an Imprezza etc and less than 2.5K and above all - EASY TO RE-SELL!
I think the modified and easy to get rid off without losing money demands are very much at odds with each other. Many people will prefer modifying their own track-mobile, so out of the already reasonably small group of track-toy wanting people, you are looking at selling it to the people wanting something modified by someone else.Besides, if you will be seriously tracking it, there is always the risk of running it into the tirewall/hitting another car and seeing half your investment go poof in a split second. If you can not afford to see the 2.5K go away, putting it in a track-car and trying to get it back might not be the best idea.
Ive gone through 4 200sx's and they all sold within two weeks
I had one as a real budget track toy and it was the most fun ive had in a car
The only downside is finding one that hasnt been abused and made to look s
t in the name of "Drifting"
If you do find a standard one, keep it subtle and people will bite your arm off for it come resale
I had one as a real budget track toy and it was the most fun ive had in a car
The only downside is finding one that hasnt been abused and made to look s
t in the name of "Drifting" If you do find a standard one, keep it subtle and people will bite your arm off for it come resale
Edited by dele on Friday 17th August 13:42
dele said:
Ive gone through 4 200sx's and they all sold within two weeks
I had one as a real budget track toy and it was the most fun ive had in a car
The only downside is finding one that hasnt been abused and made to look st in the name of "Drifting"
If you do find a standard one, keep it subtle and people will bite your arm off for it come resale
This is my second track 200sx they make excellent track cars with some sensible upgrades.I had one as a real budget track toy and it was the most fun ive had in a car
The only downside is finding one that hasnt been abused and made to look s
t in the name of "Drifting" If you do find a standard one, keep it subtle and people will bite your arm off for it come resale
Edited by dele on Friday 17th August 13:42
Good advice above thats why I kept this one looking like a standard road car, no silly spoilers, or drainpipe exhaust hanging out the back, just looks plain, but its got 'all the right bits' on it for track use.
Well you weren't that clear in your intial post - you just mentioned easy to sell ...!!
Which is more important? How easy it is to re-sell or not dropping in depreciation?
Whilst there is often a correlation of some sorts between the two its not a hard and fast one, for example I can think of a few cars that hold their value relatively well but do take longer to sell. As opposed to something mainstream - like a focus, easy to sell but huge depreciation!
Also by trackday cars - do you mean a car you can track or a dedicated trackday car (i.e. trailer to a trackday)?
The latter are always going to be harder to sell but tend to hold their value better.
That all said - and I can only base this on my experience of looking at Caterhams with a mate (so a bit higher than your budget). Catherhams hold their value well but are much harder to sell (or even buy for that matter) in the winter.
I would assume teh best market to sell a trackday car is spring/early summer. 6 months from now you'll find it tougher...
Which is more important? How easy it is to re-sell or not dropping in depreciation?
Whilst there is often a correlation of some sorts between the two its not a hard and fast one, for example I can think of a few cars that hold their value relatively well but do take longer to sell. As opposed to something mainstream - like a focus, easy to sell but huge depreciation!
Also by trackday cars - do you mean a car you can track or a dedicated trackday car (i.e. trailer to a trackday)?
The latter are always going to be harder to sell but tend to hold their value better.
That all said - and I can only base this on my experience of looking at Caterhams with a mate (so a bit higher than your budget). Catherhams hold their value well but are much harder to sell (or even buy for that matter) in the winter.
I would assume teh best market to sell a trackday car is spring/early summer. 6 months from now you'll find it tougher...
talktohenry1 said:
yes I know that only too well... but you missing the point I want something that has decent re-sale demand and where it doesn't drop like a rocket in value in comparison to others!
That's an AUTOMATIC!
rallycross said:
How about a Nissan 200 sx 2.0 turbo, lsd, modified for track use with coil overs, uprated anti roll bars, uprated boost /decat/induction etc runs a safe 240 bhp.
Still nice day to day road car with aircon, stereo, leather etc but has been set up for track days, but without making it look like a boy racer car. FSH 85k miles.
it looks just like this but is a manual version
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
Still nice day to day road car with aircon, stereo, leather etc but has been set up for track days, but without making it look like a boy racer car. FSH 85k miles.
it looks just like this but is a manual version
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
Edited by rallycross on Friday 17th August 14:42
talktohenry1 said:
That's an AUTOMATIC!
I think he means his looks like this one but HIS is a manual.rallycross said:
How about a Nissan 200 sx 2.0 turbo, lsd, modified for track use with coil overs, uprated anti roll bars, uprated boost /decat/induction etc runs a safe 240 bhp.
Still nice day to day road car with aircon, stereo, leather etc but has been set up for track days, but without making it look like a boy racer car. FSH 85k miles.
it looks just like this but is a manual version
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
Still nice day to day road car with aircon, stereo, leather etc but has been set up for track days, but without making it look like a boy racer car. FSH 85k miles.
it looks just like this but is a manual version
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
Edited by rallycross on Friday 17th August 14:42
200SX is a good shout though.
[quote=rallycross]it looks just like this but is a manual version
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
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An auto would not be much use on track, (unless you only had one leg).
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
quote]
An auto would not be much use on track, (unless you only had one leg).
A few years back I bought a 996 tiptronic (a bit of a mistake but for different reasons).
A friends mate (who does a lot of track driving and some racing) actually said he would highly recommend a car like that for someone learning to drive on track.
Slightly different than an automatic in that the tiptronic does allow you to choose gears (albeit in the 996 its pressing buttons rather than the more satisfying paddle shift).
His theory was that with a 996 tip (which he had driven on track) - you can effectively 'queue' up the shifts and focus on getting the braking and the line right instead.
As a novice track day driver - I often will mess up the braking because I am more worried about down shifting.
A friends mate (who does a lot of track driving and some racing) actually said he would highly recommend a car like that for someone learning to drive on track.
Slightly different than an automatic in that the tiptronic does allow you to choose gears (albeit in the 996 its pressing buttons rather than the more satisfying paddle shift).
His theory was that with a 996 tip (which he had driven on track) - you can effectively 'queue' up the shifts and focus on getting the braking and the line right instead.
As a novice track day driver - I often will mess up the braking because I am more worried about down shifting.
rallycross]allycross said:
it looks just like this but is a manual version
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
quote]
An auto would not be much use on track, (unless you only had one leg).
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4026538.htm
quote]
An auto would not be much use on track, (unless you only had one leg).
talktohenry1 said:
yes I know that only too well... but you missing the point I want something that has decent re-sale demand and where it doesn't drop like a rocket in value in comparison to others!
Is a car which you buy for <£2500 really going to drop that much money? Unless you buy an overpriced one, you're only going to lose a couple of hundred at the very most, surely...Had this 2 & a half yrs, just sold for tad more than I paid, running costs were minimal.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4089428.htm
I've had quite a bunch of track cars & done fine on most on them come re-sale time, have lost out on a couple, but done far better on others even made a decent profit on a couple, even after a year or two of track frollics.
Luck is quite a factor, as things can naturally break when its being thrapped senseless on a regular basis, but buy a car pretty much done, just in need of fettling, pay the right price & minimal running costs & with your lucky socks on you can get out of it without loosing your shirt & sometimes even make a couple of quid.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4089428.htm
I've had quite a bunch of track cars & done fine on most on them come re-sale time, have lost out on a couple, but done far better on others even made a decent profit on a couple, even after a year or two of track frollics.
Luck is quite a factor, as things can naturally break when its being thrapped senseless on a regular basis, but buy a car pretty much done, just in need of fettling, pay the right price & minimal running costs & with your lucky socks on you can get out of it without loosing your shirt & sometimes even make a couple of quid.
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