MK5 R32 Golf vs MK4 Golf R32 What do you fancy ?
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Hello there people I've recently been on a hunt for a new hot hatch some of you may remember the thread a couple of days ago. The list starterd with Audi s3 mk1
Honda civic type r Ep3
R32 Golf MK4
Seat Leon Cupra R
The ones that stood out the most to me was first the Honda civic type r ep3 and then the mk4 r32 i dont dislike the others but the list had to get shorter and I've already got a mk2 focus rs and a old Renault 5 gt turbo so felt silly going for another turbo and the non turbos in the list stood out in a different light to the others.
Anyways I made the final decision and steerd to the German side which was a hard final decision For me to come to.
I got on the classifieds search and the mk5 r32 kept popping up which was annoyance because my budget is 6k and tbh it was the mk5 r32 my heart really wanted in the first place but wanted to keep the mrs happy as you do and stick to a budget.
Now the budget has since gone out of the window and I'm now considering a mk5 r32 but wanted some info on the two and people's opinions.
All comments will be aprciated
Honda civic type r Ep3
R32 Golf MK4
Seat Leon Cupra R
The ones that stood out the most to me was first the Honda civic type r ep3 and then the mk4 r32 i dont dislike the others but the list had to get shorter and I've already got a mk2 focus rs and a old Renault 5 gt turbo so felt silly going for another turbo and the non turbos in the list stood out in a different light to the others.
Anyways I made the final decision and steerd to the German side which was a hard final decision For me to come to.
I got on the classifieds search and the mk5 r32 kept popping up which was annoyance because my budget is 6k and tbh it was the mk5 r32 my heart really wanted in the first place but wanted to keep the mrs happy as you do and stick to a budget.
Now the budget has since gone out of the window and I'm now considering a mk5 r32 but wanted some info on the two and people's opinions.
All comments will be aprciated
I'm lucky enough to have had both.
The MkIV is a rawer car, with a "rougher" feel to it. I don't mean its cheap, I mean it feels like it was put together by enthusiasts.
The MkV is a more complete car, more civilised, less of a compromise. It can do a run to Sainsburys in the morning and charge around the B roads like a stung bull in the afternoons.
I recorded my mpg and never saw 30 in the MkIV, once or twice in the MkV.
Both sound great, the earlier car just having the edge on this, and on looks, in my view.
Depends what you want from your car.
Hope this helps....ask away if there's anything else you want to know....
The MkIV is a rawer car, with a "rougher" feel to it. I don't mean its cheap, I mean it feels like it was put together by enthusiasts.
The MkV is a more complete car, more civilised, less of a compromise. It can do a run to Sainsburys in the morning and charge around the B roads like a stung bull in the afternoons.
I recorded my mpg and never saw 30 in the MkIV, once or twice in the MkV.
Both sound great, the earlier car just having the edge on this, and on looks, in my view.
Depends what you want from your car.
Hope this helps....ask away if there's anything else you want to know....
MK4 golf was widely panned by the press as the worst golf platform by some margin, MKV was praised at putting the golf back on top, the V R32 is a more complete better car
however the MKIV is rare and i suspect it will hold its price better in the long term because of this, VW dumped 100s of poverty spec MKVs very cheaply on the UK near the end of the run (not like VAG to do this) which hit residuals ...
low millage IVs already go for more than Vs
drive them both get the one you like
however the MKIV is rare and i suspect it will hold its price better in the long term because of this, VW dumped 100s of poverty spec MKVs very cheaply on the UK near the end of the run (not like VAG to do this) which hit residuals ...
low millage IVs already go for more than Vs
drive them both get the one you like
ChickenvanGuy said:
I'm lucky enough to have had both.
The MkIV is a rawer car, with a "rougher" feel to it. I don't mean its cheap, I mean it feels like it was put together by enthusiasts.
The MkV is a more complete car, more civilised, less of a compromise. It can do a run to Sainsburys in the morning and charge around the B roads like a stung bull in the afternoons.
I recorded my mpg and never saw 30 in the MkIV, once or twice in the MkV.
Both sound great, the earlier car just having the edge on this, and on looks, in my view.
Depends what you want from your car.
Hope this helps....ask away if there's anything else you want to know....
Many thanks for the reply mate I was hoping I would get someone who's had both. It's weird because I thought the mk4 would be the rougher one and that the mk5 would be more civilised of the two. The MkIV is a rawer car, with a "rougher" feel to it. I don't mean its cheap, I mean it feels like it was put together by enthusiasts.
The MkV is a more complete car, more civilised, less of a compromise. It can do a run to Sainsburys in the morning and charge around the B roads like a stung bull in the afternoons.
I recorded my mpg and never saw 30 in the MkIV, once or twice in the MkV.
Both sound great, the earlier car just having the edge on this, and on looks, in my view.
Depends what you want from your car.
Hope this helps....ask away if there's anything else you want to know....
If I'm to be deadly honest the mk5 is the one I really want but the look of the mk4 especially in blue it just takes me away and I think it sounds nicer than the mk5. What is it that makes you think the mark 4 just edges it and what would you want to drive if you had the keys to both but only one set could be taken ?
Sorry for the deep sounding question lol I just want as much feedback as possible and you have been to both worlds of the r32 circles so your proberly one of the people with a good view on them
I much prefer the MKIV. The MKV might be a "better" car in some ways, but the MKIV is more iconic, more recognisable and imo much more special. The MKV R32 just looks too similar to a TDi, but the MKIV R32, especially in blue, is instantly recognisable and a far more attractive prospect to me.
The MkV R32 is the most disappointing car I've owned. A series of warranty claims, poor mpg, high running costs and underwhelming performance. For the same running costs (tax, insurance and fuel) I realised I could have an e46 M3, which was far faster, much better to drive and more reliable. So that's what I did and have never, ever regretted it.
GA55SED said:
ChickenvanGuy said:
I'm lucky enough to have had both.
The MkIV is a rawer car, with a "rougher" feel to it. I don't mean its cheap, I mean it feels like it was put together by enthusiasts.
The MkV is a more complete car, more civilised, less of a compromise. It can do a run to Sainsburys in the morning and charge around the B roads like a stung bull in the afternoons.
I recorded my mpg and never saw 30 in the MkIV, once or twice in the MkV.
Both sound great, the earlier car just having the edge on this, and on looks, in my view.
Depends what you want from your car.
Hope this helps....ask away if there's anything else you want to know....
Many thanks for the reply mate I was hoping I would get someone who's had both. It's weird because I thought the mk4 would be the rougher one and that the mk5 would be more civilised of the two. The MkIV is a rawer car, with a "rougher" feel to it. I don't mean its cheap, I mean it feels like it was put together by enthusiasts.
The MkV is a more complete car, more civilised, less of a compromise. It can do a run to Sainsburys in the morning and charge around the B roads like a stung bull in the afternoons.
I recorded my mpg and never saw 30 in the MkIV, once or twice in the MkV.
Both sound great, the earlier car just having the edge on this, and on looks, in my view.
Depends what you want from your car.
Hope this helps....ask away if there's anything else you want to know....
If I'm to be deadly honest the mk5 is the one I really want but the look of the mk4 especially in blue it just takes me away and I think it sounds nicer than the mk5. What is it that makes you think the mark 4 just edges it and what would you want to drive if you had the keys to both but only one set could be taken ?
Sorry for the deep sounding question lol I just want as much feedback as possible and you have been to both worlds of the r32 circles so your proberly one of the people with a good view on them
I don't think the MKIV edges it overall. It does do so on noise and looks but the later car is a better all-rounder.
If I was offered the keys to both for one day I'd take the MKIV.
If I was offered the keys to both for a year I go with the MKV. It's easier to live with day-to-day.
I traded my MKV for one of the last 2009 S2000s, which was a wonderful machine. I'm now in a 2011 S3, which has much in common with the MKV R32 - civilised when you want it to be, quick and entertaining at other times, subtle looks, good kit.
Drive both and see what you think, although the MKIVs are all getting on a bit now. Good advice available over on R32OC.
There's a good thread on this topic in the VW subforum at the minute, hang on....
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Good info there too.
I owned a MK5 for 5 years and put 84k miles on it in that time. It was a brilliant car.
Mk4 is more iconic but unfortunately suffers the same weaknesses if all MK4 Golfs and require a bit of tlc and money to keep in tip top condition. MK5 is a much better all round car and you have the DSG option which is brilliant coupled to that silky smooth V6.
To be honest it's more of a high speed cruiser as opposed to a hot hatch. A GTI is more rewarding down the twisties unless it's raining.
Mk4 is more iconic but unfortunately suffers the same weaknesses if all MK4 Golfs and require a bit of tlc and money to keep in tip top condition. MK5 is a much better all round car and you have the DSG option which is brilliant coupled to that silky smooth V6.
To be honest it's more of a high speed cruiser as opposed to a hot hatch. A GTI is more rewarding down the twisties unless it's raining.
[quote=Gruber]The MkV R32 is the most disappointing car I've owned. A series of warranty claims, poor mpg, high running costs and underwhelming performance. For the same running costs (tax, insurance and fuel) I realised I could have an e46 M3, which was far faster, much better to drive and more reliable. So that's what I did and have never, ever regretted it.[/quote
Have you considered an Mk5 Edition 30? Fast as F, and has that bit of exclusivity and therefore better residuals.
Have you considered an Mk5 Edition 30? Fast as F, and has that bit of exclusivity and therefore better residuals.
andygo]ruber said:
The MkV R32 is the most disappointing car I've owned. A series of warranty claims, poor mpg, high running costs and underwhelming performance. For the same running costs (tax, insurance and fuel) I realised I could have an e46 M3, which was far faster, much better to drive and more reliable. So that's what I did and have never, ever regretted it.[/quote
Have you considered an Mk5 Edition 30? Fast as F, and has that bit of exclusivity and therefore better residuals.
Or even a Golf Pirelli, even more exclusive, I think there are only 170 in UK.Have you considered an Mk5 Edition 30? Fast as F, and has that bit of exclusivity and therefore better residuals.
cuprabob said:
andygo said:
Gruber said:
The MkV R32 is the most disappointing car I've owned. A series of warranty claims, poor mpg, high running costs and underwhelming performance. For the same running costs (tax, insurance and fuel) I realised I could have an e46 M3, which was far faster, much better to drive and more reliable. So that's what I did and have never, ever regretted it.
Have you considered an Mk5 Edition 30? Fast as F, and has that bit of exclusivity and therefore better residuals.I've driven a MK4 R32 and owned various other MK4s and I won't have another as there are too many age related thing to resolve now but no doubt they're good cars if you have money for the upkeep.
I've owned a MK5 R32 for 22,000 over the last year and it's been great in many ways. 29mpg average (33 motorway, 26 around town), amazing noise, very well built aside from a rattley MK5 boot and performance that is secure rather than startling.
I'd take a MK5 any day of the week over a MK4, regardless of the edition of the car.
I've owned a MK5 R32 for 22,000 over the last year and it's been great in many ways. 29mpg average (33 motorway, 26 around town), amazing noise, very well built aside from a rattley MK5 boot and performance that is secure rather than startling.
I'd take a MK5 any day of the week over a MK4, regardless of the edition of the car.
I moved from an E46 M3 to a MkV R32 as need a five door car while I look to add a two-seater from Italy and have to say it is great. Fast enough to allow "progress" and easy to live with. As others have said the M3 is much quicker and all round a far more sporty car and I would recommend one if you can stretch the budget, however for the money I think the R32 is outstanding. The sound it makes is also a bonus and makes driving it more enjoyable...
Cannot comment on MkIV, however do highly recommend the MkV, mine is staying for the foreseeable.
GusB
Cannot comment on MkIV, however do highly recommend the MkV, mine is staying for the foreseeable.
GusB
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