Thinking 330d, any tips?
Thinking 330d, any tips?
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Apache

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39,731 posts

311 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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I gather post 02 things changed a bit on the 320d, was this the same for the 330d? do I need to check my swirl flaps, egr? etc

littleredrooster

6,277 posts

223 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Good choice, just sold mine (E46). Most have swirl flaps which need to be removed before they give problems at about 90,000+ miles, EGRs don't seem to give many problems and are relatively easy to fix anyway.

A good mod (if it hasn't already been done) is to change the breather-filter at the back of the cambox for the latest type. This can prevent turbo failure later in life.

Autoboxes benefit from an oil-change at or around the 100,000 mile mark but make sure this is done by someone who knows what they are doing.

Apache

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39,731 posts

311 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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cheers what mpg did you get

Jw Vw

4,916 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Swirl flaps being replaced for blanks is a must on these.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

231 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Jw Vw said:
Swirl flaps being replaced for blanks is a must on these.
+10.

I did it myself but most people get a garage to do it.

matthias73

2,901 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Can someone explain wh the swirl flaps fail and why they were installed in the first place?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

231 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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matthias73 said:
Can someone explain wh the swirl flaps fail and why they were installed in the first place?
Why installed: Emissions control at low revs/idle.
Why fail: Because they are constructed badly. They are basically a throttle butterfly, i.e. a flap screwed to a spindle which bisects the manifold branch. Problem is that the screws work loose and then they and possibly the flap itself are ingested since they sit only a couple of inches from the inlet valves.

More info;
http://www.swirlflaps.co.uk/what-are-swirl-flaps.h...

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

230 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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A friend of mine has just bought a fully loaded (yes I really mean that) 05 plate 330cd convertible, black with red leather, absolutely fking stunning.

OP should get one of those!

Just thought I'd say like wink

mrmr96

13,736 posts

231 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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PS - Don't let anyone misinformed tell you that certain engine sizes do or don't have them, or that it depends on the year or the gearbox type. There's no hard and fast rule. There's also not telling which size (as there's two sizes of flaps and hence two possible specs for the blanks) are installed on a given car, because the manifolds were installed as a complete unit at the factory and to me knowledge no record was kept by BMW as to which style manifold was installed on each car, as they were treated as interchangeable for at least a period.

matthias73

2,901 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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mrmr96 said:
matthias73 said:
Can someone explain wh the swirl flaps fail and why they were installed in the first place?
Why installed: Emissions control at low revs/idle.
Why fail: Because they are constructed badly. They are basically a throttle butterfly, i.e. a flap screwed to a spindle which bisects the manifold branch. Problem is that the screws work loose and then they and possibly the flap itself are ingested since they sit only a couple of inches from the inlet valves.

More info;
http://www.swirlflaps.co.uk/what-are-swirl-flaps.h...
What the-

I assumed it was to control emissions, especially in cities, but having looked at their construction makes me wonder if the engineers assumed they would be removed once bought anyway...

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

230 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
The 330 diesel isn't that much more economical than the 330 petrol. Worth a thought wink
I reckon it is.

soda

1,131 posts

188 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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I liked mine, 184bhp with the 5sp manual. Rarely dipped below mid 40's mpg.

EGR can be disabled on the older engine without throwing up the light on the dash, not so sure on the newer ones with 204bhp.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

214 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
The 330 diesel isn't that much more economical than the 330 petrol. Worth a thought wink
My 330D manual averaged just over 42mpg.

My 330i manual averaged 29mpg.

Both according to the trip computer.

They were both probably optimistic.

littleredrooster

6,277 posts

223 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Apache said:
cheers what mpg did you get
On a 400 mile roadtrip from the Midlands to North-West Scotchland I got about 43mpg driving like an eejit - .95 leptons+ where possible and rarely dropped below .8 Superb drive using the tiptronic change most of the way. Garmin track-log showed a peak of 1.28 leptons, IIRC...

Commuting in Winter gave the worst mpg - dropped to about 32mpg, but this is with a short, junction-ridden commute of only 9 miles.

Overall 40mpg with a 'progressive' driving style.

Neighbour has (actually, had) a 330i auto slightly older than mine; he struggled to get within 10mpg of the 330d under all conditions, and every time I came across him on the road, he was driving like a granny!

Noisy

4,489 posts

304 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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I've got a 2005 e46 330Cd, great car and love it, check for front wishbone bushes, if you can see the wheel move back and forward as it moves or stops they will need replacing.

I remapped mine and is a great car goes well and large brakes means it stops too, I've done a track day and most people out with me couldn't believe it was a diesel. Its averaging 37mpg, get well over 40 on a run but round town isn't great so brings down the average.

Mr-B

4,848 posts

221 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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Noisy said:
I've got a 2005 e46 330Cd, great car and love it, check for front wishbone bushes, if you can see the wheel move back and forward as it moves or stops they will need replacing.

I remapped mine and is a great car goes well and large brakes means it stops too, I've done a track day and most people out with me couldn't believe it was a diesel. Its averaging 37mpg, get well over 40 on a run but round town isn't great so brings down the average.
I could have written that word for word!

54 plate 330cdm, remapped, 37mpg on lots of very short journeys, and mid 40's on motorway runs.

R5YUP

1,171 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
The 330 diesel isn't that much more economical than the 330 petrol. Worth a thought wink
I have an e91 330i mSport Touring..... Mixed driving..... 23.9mpg over the past 4k miles.

At constant speeds it's ok on the fuel. Any degree of stop start type driving and it's frankly horrendous. It's less economical than my old 997 C2S.

Can't speak if the dervs - but I'd hope they're a bit better!!

Nice creamy engine though!