Does the BMW 4 series looks like a Ford Scorpio?

[mattberkshire]

OK so it's early days and the car's heavily modified but I can't help think that in the spyshots the new 4 series is the spit of the unsmiling Scorpio. What do you think?

Edited by Tuscan Rat on Saturday 25th August 10:54

[DaveH23]

Didnt know there was a 4 series.

Looks hugh in that pic.

[NiceCupOfTea]

Is there any niche BMW have left unturned!? What the hell is a 4-series? 5 series coupe is a 6 series, 3 series coupe is... a 3 series coupe!

Edited by NiceCupOfTea on Saturday 25th August 10:14

[KardioKate]

Link building?

[ajprice]

NiceCupOfTea said:

Is there any BMW have left unturned!? What the hell is a 4-series? 5 series coupe is a 6 series, 3 series coupe is... a 3 series coupe!

4 series is what they're going to call the 3 series coupe. I think the next 1 series coupe is going to be called 2 series too.

[Charlie Michael]

It'll be interesting to see if the M4 will have a twin or tri turbo straight 6. Or will it be exactly the same as the 3 series?

[anonymous-user]

ajprice said:

NiceCupOfTea said:

Is there any BMW have left unturned!? What the hell is a 4-series? 5 series coupe is a 6 series, 3 series coupe is... a 3 series coupe!

4 series is what they're going to call the 3 series coupe. I think the next 1 series coupe is going to be called 2 series too.

Yep. Coupes will be even numbered, saloons odd numbers. Simples

[iva cosworth]

How do you know that's a BMW ?

It doesn't have a "kidney" grile

[em177]

KardioKate said:

Link building?

[Wills2]

ajprice said:

NiceCupOfTea said:

Is there any BMW have left unturned!? What the hell is a 4-series? 5 series coupe is a 6 series, 3 series coupe is... a 3 series coupe!

4 series is what they're going to call the 3 series coupe. I think the next 1 series coupe is going to be called 2 series too.

They are just copying those clever marketing guys at Audi who have managed to convince the car buying public that the A5 coupe is some how not just a 2 door A4 and the 5 door A5 is something more than than a hatch back A4.

I have colleagues at work who think they are driving around in a 6 series rival FFS!

Clever bit of product positioning mind.

[mattberkshire]

em177 said:

KardioKate said:

Link building?

I had to look up what the term meant! In a way, yes. No harm in it. Hadn't seen the point raised here before. Generates a debate

[mattberkshire]

Wills2 said:

They are just copying those clever marketing guys at Audi who have managed to convince the car buying public that the A5 coupe is some how not just a 2 door A4 and the 5 door A5 is something more than than a hatch back A4.

I have colleagues at work who think they are driving around in a 6 series rival FFS!

Clever bit of product positioning mind.

Absolutely true. BMW are just playing catch up

[dav123a]

garyhun said:

ajprice said:

NiceCupOfTea said:

Is there any BMW have left unturned!? What the hell is a 4-series? 5 series coupe is a 6 series, 3 series coupe is... a 3 series coupe!

4 series is what they're going to call the 3 series coupe. I think the next 1 series coupe is going to be called 2 series too.

Yep. Coupes will be even numbered, saloons odd numbers. Simples

The 0 series will be a hatchback , 3 and 5 door.

[daemon]

mattberkshire said:

Wills2 said:

They are just copying those clever marketing guys at Audi who have managed to convince the car buying public that the A5 coupe is some how not just a 2 door A4 and the 5 door A5 is something more than than a hatch back A4.

I have colleagues at work who think they are driving around in a 6 series rival FFS!

Clever bit of product positioning mind.

Absolutely true. BMW are just playing catch up

The notion of the coupe 3 series being called the four predates the a5 - I remember it being 'likely' before the e90 launch.

The 'official' line is to be able to differentiate the models, as the can make the four more interesting when its a standalone model - and no doubt charge more

[*Al*]

iva cosworth said:

How do you know that's a BMW ?

It doesn't have a "kidney" grile

No indicators.

[EDLT]

Wills2 said:

ajprice said:

NiceCupOfTea said:

Is there any BMW have left unturned!? What the hell is a 4-series? 5 series coupe is a 6 series, 3 series coupe is... a 3 series coupe!

4 series is what they're going to call the 3 series coupe. I think the next 1 series coupe is going to be called 2 series too.

They are just copying those clever marketing guys at Audi who have managed to convince the car buying public that the A5 coupe is some how not just a 2 door A4 and the 5 door A5 is something more than than a hatch back A4.

I have colleagues at work who think they are driving around in a 6 series rival FFS!

Clever bit of product positioning mind.

Except you can get a 4-door A5 now, which is almost identical to the A4.

I expect to see a saloon and estate variant of the 4-series at some point.

[davepoth]

EDLT said:

Except you can get a 4-door A5 now, which is almost identical to the A4.

I expect to see a saloon and estate variant of the 4-series at some point.

That looks to be the 4-series "Gran Coupe" anyway - the back looks a bit big to be a 2 door IMO.

[ajprice]

*Al* said:

No indicators.

Driving home yesterday at a roundabout, a 3 series is on the right waiting to go, no indicators, so I wait got him to go straight on past me. He turns left. Gaaaargh!!! :shakes fist: !!?!?! then, yeah it was a BMW, it's to be expected

[xRIEx]

mattberkshire said:

Doesn't look anything like it.

[Wills2]

daemon said:

mattberkshire said:

Wills2 said:

They are just copying those clever marketing guys at Audi who have managed to convince the car buying public that the A5 coupe is some how not just a 2 door A4 and the 5 door A5 is something more than than a hatch back A4.

I have colleagues at work who think they are driving around in a 6 series rival FFS!

Clever bit of product positioning mind.

Absolutely true. BMW are just playing catch up

The notion of the coupe 3 series being called the four predates the a5 - I remember it being 'likely' before the e90 launch.

The 'official' line is to be able to differentiate the models, as the can make the four more interesting when its a standalone model - and no doubt charge more

I reckon it's pure marketing, based upon focus groups.

saloon/estate = A4
Convertible/2/5 door "coupe" = A5

They're the same car they don't even give you an different interior to at least maintain the illusion.

So I see the upcoming 4 series in the same way

Saloon/estate = 3 series
Convertible/2/4/5 door "coupe" = 4 series

Hopefully BMW will continue to give you a better/different interior as per the 5 series vs 6 series.