15k weekend warrior - Cerb v 911
Discussion
If you were looking for a weekend 2+2 what would you go for? I'm concerned the 996 won't be enough of an event, but the Cerb too fragile. I've started researching Cerbs and they seem absolutely epic though! In terms if otger contenders, what am i missing?
Maser maintenance frightens the s
t out of me. I'd love a 993 but at 15 it's the bottom of the market. The 15 figure doesn't include fundus borkimus, so I've kept a bit in reserve... thoughts?
Maser maintenance frightens the s
t out of me. I'd love a 993 but at 15 it's the bottom of the market. The 15 figure doesn't include fundus borkimus, so I've kept a bit in reserve... thoughts?For a weekender a regular 96 is a bit dull IMO, much better sense of occasion with a TVR. Is fragility an issue with a weekend toy? It wasn't an issue for me, but the TVR will have more niggles.
Maserati - I looked at these when I was looking at 996's, absurdly expensive to maintain, not a quick as you would hope, a GT car rather than a weekend toy.
Do you want to put adults or kids in the back? IMO neither the 996 or the TVR are any good for adults in the rear unless either the trip or the people in the front are very short.
Interestingly, there seems to be more space n the back of a 993 than in a 997, particularly in terms of headroom.
Maserati - I looked at these when I was looking at 996's, absurdly expensive to maintain, not a quick as you would hope, a GT car rather than a weekend toy.
Do you want to put adults or kids in the back? IMO neither the 996 or the TVR are any good for adults in the rear unless either the trip or the people in the front are very short.
Interestingly, there seems to be more space n the back of a 993 than in a 997, particularly in terms of headroom.
I do like Mazdas - I'm on my 2nd MX5 and own another for the mrs. The RX7 isn't the type of car I'm after though, there's reliability concerns and they've mostly been butchered by the 'scene'. I don't really want engine transplant/modded cars either.
I guess I'm after a gentlemans express rather than a rice rocket
I guess I'm after a gentlemans express rather than a rice rocket
I was also tempted by a DB7. You get a goodish 996 for £15k but they are boring.
If you want something a little different there is an excellent Alpine A610 for sale on PH at the moment. The owners club say its one of the very best in terms of condition. You can fit adults in the back, its rare, its pretty quick, here is the link PH Sales Alpine A610
If I had a spare £14k I would but it today.
If you want something a little different there is an excellent Alpine A610 for sale on PH at the moment. The owners club say its one of the very best in terms of condition. You can fit adults in the back, its rare, its pretty quick, here is the link PH Sales Alpine A610
If I had a spare £14k I would but it today.
hornetrider said:
doesn't include fundus borkimus
I must remember that one 
Little to add from personal experience as they're ten years away for me, but here's my 2p - if you don't buy the Cerb now, you will quite possibly always be wondering. If you're this interested, I think it's something you're gonna have to do at least once, and even if you don't like it that much it's a weekend car you could take your time selling, and you would be unlikely to lose money.
Buy a good one and, so long as it's used regularly, I don't hear of fragility being much of an issue.
And like you say.. They're epic! A 996 is, by comparison.. very good. But I'm not sure it could take your brain out, blend it, and put it back every time you turn the key..
blueg33 said:
For a weekender a regular 96 is a bit dull IMO, much better sense of occasion with a TVR. Is fragility an issue with a weekend toy? It wasn't an issue for me, but the TVR will have more niggles.
Maserati - I looked at these when I was looking at 996's, absurdly expensive to maintain, not a quick as you would hope, a GT car rather than a weekend toy.
Do you want to put adults or kids in the back? IMO neither the 996 or the TVR are any good for adults in the rear unless either the trip or the people in the front are very short.
Interestingly, there seems to be more space n the back of a 993 than in a 997, particularly in terms of headroom.
I've got a six week old, so I do want to get a child seat in the back occasionally yes.Maserati - I looked at these when I was looking at 996's, absurdly expensive to maintain, not a quick as you would hope, a GT car rather than a weekend toy.
Do you want to put adults or kids in the back? IMO neither the 996 or the TVR are any good for adults in the rear unless either the trip or the people in the front are very short.
Interestingly, there seems to be more space n the back of a 993 than in a 997, particularly in terms of headroom.
I'm not after ultimate pace, just an enjoyable weekend/summer car with some class, go and a bit of an occasion. I've always wanted a 911 as a keeper and 996 prices are hard to ignore - I just don't think a water cooled car can be a keeper. That said if I had a Targa or a 4S I'm sure I could stretch it out 5 years or so before getting itchy feet.
Hence me starting to think about a Cerb, however I'm a complete Trevor virgin.
As mentioned above, Cerbs are nowhere near as fragile as people think they are. I had a 4.5 (bought for sub-£15k) for just less than a year, and it only let me down when the clutch went (as it could on any car). Do your research, have it inspected by a specialist, and enjoy!
There are very few cars that are as much of an event to drive/own, but go into it with your eyes open - they need pre-emptive maintenance.
There are very few cars that are as much of an event to drive/own, but go into it with your eyes open - they need pre-emptive maintenance.
hornetrider said:
I do like Mazdas - I'm on my 2nd MX5 and own another for the mrs. The RX7 isn't the type of car I'm after though, there's reliability concerns and they've mostly been butchered by the 'scene'. I don't really want engine transplant/modded cars either.
I guess I'm after a gentlemans express rather than a rice rocket
How much do BMW 850s go for? Pop-up lights rock.I guess I'm after a gentlemans express rather than a rice rocket
Or a new 6 series.
Or a classic 635CSi (I'm sure someone will take £15k for one).
hornetrider said:
I've got a six week old, so I do want to get a child seat in the back occasionally yes.
I'm not after ultimate pace, just an enjoyable weekend/summer car with some class, go and a bit of an occasion. I've always wanted a 911 as a keeper and 996 prices are hard to ignore - I just don't think a water cooled car can be a keeper. That said if I had a Targa or a 4S I'm sure I could stretch it out 5 years or so before getting itchy feet.
Hence me starting to think about a Cerb, however I'm a complete Trevor virgin.
I test drove my Tuscan and a 997c2s back to back. Tuscan was much more exciting. I agree with you about 996 prices but ultimately to me I can only sum them up as fast company cars, very competent but unless its a GT3 or a maybe a Turbo, ultimately a bit dull.I'm not after ultimate pace, just an enjoyable weekend/summer car with some class, go and a bit of an occasion. I've always wanted a 911 as a keeper and 996 prices are hard to ignore - I just don't think a water cooled car can be a keeper. That said if I had a Targa or a 4S I'm sure I could stretch it out 5 years or so before getting itchy feet.
Hence me starting to think about a Cerb, however I'm a complete Trevor virgin.
TVR's are no where near as bad as people make out. Look around for a good one, get TVR Power or Rob Ingleby to inspect it. TVR will cost more to service though.
I'd go for the Cerb. Porsches make fantastic all-rounders and I'd go for the 911 without question if it was a daily driver, but they take time to get under your skin. Whereas, even if you only fire up the Cerb once a month for a quick blast it will still make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up (or at least it should do).
I guess there are other options, but not many. The XK8 is way too staid in this company IMHO. The Maserati 4200 GT is a thing of beauty but even further towards the GT end of the scale than the 911 in most respects.
Sticking with the Maserati theme, what about a Ghibli? I gather they can be pretty scary prospects mechanically, but you'd have enough budget for a good one and a decent contingency fund.
They're not the most photogenic cars, but those angles and creases do look good in the flesh.
I guess there are other options, but not many. The XK8 is way too staid in this company IMHO. The Maserati 4200 GT is a thing of beauty but even further towards the GT end of the scale than the 911 in most respects.
Sticking with the Maserati theme, what about a Ghibli? I gather they can be pretty scary prospects mechanically, but you'd have enough budget for a good one and a decent contingency fund.
They're not the most photogenic cars, but those angles and creases do look good in the flesh.
Chrisw666 said:
850i
XK (Albeit a leggy one)
XKR (XK8 shape)
Monaro (Probably the most bork proof option)
Ferrari Mondial (they must be cheap to run )
But as you asked about the Cerb V the 911 - Heart = Cerb, Head = 911.
XK - maybe in my late forties XK (Albeit a leggy one)
XKR (XK8 shape)
Monaro (Probably the most bork proof option)
Ferrari Mondial (they must be cheap to run
)But as you asked about the Cerb V the 911 - Heart = Cerb, Head = 911.
Monaro - too council
Ferrari - see Maser comments above
Just thought of maybe a nice 928 though...
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