RE: Russian restorations
RE: Russian restorations
Friday 31st August 2012

Russian restorations

Fancy a ZIL with a Chevy V8? Maybe you hadn't realised you did, but PistonHeads is here to help...



Russia's thirst for new cars is in the spotlight as the Moscow Motor Show opens its doors to the public. But the country is also very keen on its classics, driven in part by the most influential classic car fan in the world: President Vladimir Putin.

East meets west as a ZIL awaits its Chevy V8
East meets west as a ZIL awaits its Chevy V8
Trouble is, old Russian cars are (whisper it) a bit rubbish. So if you want to get politically comfy with Mr P and stay physically comfortable yourself, you get your old Volga or whatever stripped down to the bare shell and have everything replaced that can't be seen with bits from a modern donor car. The best place to do that is housed within an old Soviet car factory in the town of Nizhny Novgorod, refitted to the tune of $10m (£6.3m) and charging between $50,000-$500,000 for the privilege.

PistonHeads had the good fortune to get shown round by the guy who manages it together with the wider GAZ Group, Swede Bo Andersson. No names were mentioned, but clearly, his customers weren't just your average millionaires.

Old Volga is typical of the work here...
Old Volga is typical of the work here...
He points to pictures of past projects. "This one is a gift to the Ukrainian president, by, er, someone. This one was a private customer, this one was ordered by someone very important and given to someone very important."

Two of the blocky and immense ZIL limousines favoured by Soviet Politburo members were on ramps, one stripped to its shell to accept its donor parts. These come from a brand-new Chevy Silverado pickup: V8 engine, chassis, drivetrain, gearbox - the lot. Any bodypanels that no longer fit? No problem - GAZ will just stamp out new ones.

The biggest coup was winning a commission to supply three ZIL limo convertibles for use in the Victory Day Parade in Moscow's Red Square, most recently held this year.

...in that it has far from typical Toyota power
...in that it has far from typical Toyota power
In winning the job, GAZ beat ZIL. Yup, the original makers of the limo, still surviving as a truck maker and still able to build its behemoth car, lost out to a company making what are basically copies of its signature vehicle. Maybe it helped that the overall owner of GAZ is well-connected oligarch Oleg Deripaska, the guy on whose yacht Peter Mandelson and George Osborne famously schmoozed.

As well as the Silverados, other donor vehicles include Toyotas, although they didn't say what. We did however spot a Volga 21, originally made by GAZ in the same Nizny factory back in the 60s, packing a turbocharged 2.5-litre engine from a JDM Toyota Supra.

The old GAZ 69/UAZ jeeps come out of the workshp essentially Toyotas with retro Soviet bodies. We also saw old GAZ Chaika limos being stripped. These too were made new at the factory, until Mikhail Gorbachev ordered that all the tooling be destroyed.

What's going in there? God knows...
What's going in there? God knows...
Andersson is proud of the work done here. "We had the former manager of Rolls-Royce, Karl-Heinz Kalbfell, here and he said our shop is up there with the Rolls-Royce restoration workshop," he tells us. It will produce 10-15 cars a year but that rate could be improved. "There are enough oligarchs we can sell to," he says.

 

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wotnot

Original Poster:

383 posts

201 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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I know it's wrong, and if I had that kind of money I'd buy something else, but the thought of an updated ZIL is strangely attractive. Love to see a properly finished one.
Mind you, what can you do to one of these behemoths that could cost $500,000?

GranCab

2,914 posts

173 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Armour-plate it as well ?

soad

34,494 posts

203 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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GranCab said:
Armour-plate it as well ?
You'd think so.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

285 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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soad said:
GranCab said:
Armour-plate it as well ?
You'd think so.
Probably came like that anyway. Don't think ZIL's ownership list was exactly what you'd call benevolent.

JREwing

17,547 posts

206 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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There's something in my mind that has always said a ZIL would suit me.....

vincegail

2,641 posts

182 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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"Fancy a ZIL with a Chevy V8? Maybe you hadn't realised you did"

I realise I still don't.

Twoshoe

990 posts

211 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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vincegail said:
"Fancy a ZIL with a Chevy V8? Maybe you hadn't realised you did"

I realise I still don't.
Me neither. However, a small bit of me is glad that places like this exist.

M@1975

591 posts

254 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Pimp my Ride for Ruissian gangsters?

garypotter

2,068 posts

177 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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I can appreciate that these cars are russian history being recreated with modern running gear etc. cant wait for the old leyland factory to open and for them to put modern running gear in the princess, Marina and any other $hitta from the 60's and 70's.

By the way good for them i hope their business booms and they keep many of the old cars on the road.

Glitchy

11 posts

205 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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"packing a turbocharged 2.5-litre engine from a JDM Toyota Supra"

I know it's being picky, but it's definitely not from a Supra as it's a VVTI 1JZ-GTE, probably from a Soarer or Chaser.

A832

944 posts

169 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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This reminds me of one of my favourite cars:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/volga-v-12-co...

That's what you get for top money!! thumbup

anonymous-user

81 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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I'm doing the same thing with my rolls royce shadow, and trust me its costing a lot less than 500K!

A crate LS3 and a gearbox is about $15K...

XJSJohn

16,147 posts

246 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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from $50k to $500k ...

$50k for a strip down to bare metal rebuild and a brand new doner car to boot sounds quite reasonable ...

I imagine the $500k varients include dodo skin seat covers, diamond encrusted door handles and armour plating made from unobtanium!

Always fancied a Grosser Merc, but one of those big ZIL's could be fun too, cool

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

192 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Glitchy said:
"packing a turbocharged 2.5-litre engine from a JDM Toyota Supra"

I know it's being picky, but it's definitely not from a Supra as it's a VVTI 1JZ-GTE, probably from a Soarer or Chaser.
They did however fit a 2.5 turbo to the JDM genIII Supra...

Glitchy

11 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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mrtwisty said:
Glitchy said:
"packing a turbocharged 2.5-litre engine from a JDM Toyota Supra"

I know it's being picky, but it's definitely not from a Supra as it's a VVTI 1JZ-GTE, probably from a Soarer or Chaser.
They did however fit a 2.5 turbo to the JDM genIII Supra...
But that doesn't have VVTi, that was my point.