People who indicate as you're overtaking...

[tinkertaylor]

I've had this happen to me twice in a week, just as i'm about to overtake someone and they've decided to put on their indicators and start to pull out into my lane, and because I haven't let them (as i'd have to slam on my brakes and they'd be filling the gap between me and the car in front) i've been blasted and had lights flashed at me! Am I in the wrong or are there just too many fkwits on the road?

[Honestherbert]

Just to many fkwits on the road.

[Shoukie]

It depends on the situation in which it happens. If they are approaching another vehicle and need to pull out to overtake, then you should be aware of their situation and react accordingly - If it's a dual carriageway, you should either let them out or you should speed up and carry out you're overtake before they need to pull out. If it's a motorway then you should move over 2 lanes to do your overtake so that they can still pull out.

All IMO of course. It's highly frustrating when people deliberately box you in knowing that you were about to pull out.

[Makem]

This drives me insane too. What a proportion of people do is think I wanna change lane, indicate then look In the mirror. Causes people to slam on brakes as you say.

[xRIEx]

Too many people think that by indicating you have to give way to them, rather than them looking for a safe gap. I was taught that any manoeuvre you make should not make any other road user change their speed or direction.

[Sam.F]

A little off-topic maybe but in a similar vein I often wonder why people feel the need to indicate left when they complete an overtake on a single carriageway road... umm, where else are you going to go?

[waterwonder]

Sam.F said:

A little off-topic maybe but in a similar vein I often wonder why people feel the need to indicate left when they complete an overtake on a single carriageway road... umm, where else are you going to go?

MSM. I do it more than ever now, probably pointless in most situations but it avoids any doubt.
People seem to drive around with their heads in the cloud now so I try to do everything possible to make them aware of my intentions.

In answer to the OP too many fkwits imo.

[Roso]

again, a bit off topic, but What REALLY annoys me is when you indicate to pull out into a perfectly massive space, and the car behind accelerates hard in protest, then slams on the brakes before the inevitable horn blast.

numpties.

[xRIEx]

Roso said:

again, a bit off topic, but What REALLY annoys me is when you indicate to pull out into a perfectly massive space, and the car behind accelerates hard in protest, then slams on the brakes before the inevitable horn blast.

numpties.

Yes, I hate that. I saw it yesterday when a van in front of me moved into the outside lane, ML270 (complete with AMG badge) speeds up after the van had finished changing lanes, and then of course slammed on the brakes. What are they trying to prove?!

[E500 TAT]

xRIEx said:

What are they trying to prove?!

That they are an arse.

[marcosgt]

Really? Most people I see don't bother indicating...

M.

[Ozzie Osmond]

tinkertaylor said:

....because I haven't let them....

If you were doing your driving test and drove like that do you think it would be "pass" or "fail"?

Sounds like you need some attitude training.

[myles1972]

Ozzie Osmond said:

If you were doing your driving test and drove like that do you think it would be "pass" or "fail"?

Sounds like you need some attitude training.

I think you probably read that wrong. I don't think he was blocking them in as such, more pulling out first, only to have the car in front indicate to pull out. If he slams on to let the guy in front out, that would be a fail.

[Mouse1903]

Last minute indicators drive me nuts. People think the minute they have flashed their indicator once they are entitled to pull out. Mirror, signal, manoeuvre. Isn't too difficult. Even more frustrating / funny are the fools who make the manoeuvre then indicate afterwards!

[tinkertaylor]

myles1972 said:

I think you probably read that wrong. I don't think he was blocking them in as such, more pulling out first, only to have the car in front indicate to pull out. If he slams on to let the guy in front out, that would be a fail.

Yeah this. I wouldn't ever block anyone in - if we both pulled out at the same time, even if they had indicated after, i'd just flash them to let them out

What I mean on the OP is when i'm on the outside lane, say i'm going 70, all of a sudden someone who is on the inside lane going 55-60, decides to stick on their indicators like it gives them the right to just waft into the lane i'm in (which means i'd have to slam on my brakes), as opposed to just waiting until i've overtaken to pull out onto the outside lane...this has happened twice this week and both times i've been flashed and blasted because I refused to be bullied into slamming on my brakes! the cheek of it!

Edited by tinkertaylor on Tuesday 4th September 23:23

[Ozzie Osmond]

anonymous said:

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Agreed, it's annoying. However, I suspect it is often caused by responding to their SatNav.

My personal favourite is people who cannot possibly drive with the riff-raff in Lane 1 of a motorway and cut directly in or out of the slip-roads from or Lane 2 or Lane 3.

[CR6ZZ]

I must admit to being guilty of this once. Person about 100m (yes, 100m) behind me indicated to pass and pulled out. However, he was conducting the move at only about 2-3 mph above the speed the queue was traveling at and closing quite slowly. There was a huge gap available so I accelerated well before Mr passer had caught up with me, indicated, pulled out and passed, and pulled back in again, all well before Mr passer had even caught up to where I had been initially. He continued his move and inched past the car I had just passed, then passed me and proceeded to make a great show of having his passenger jot down my number. Accordingly, I received a notice from the BiB in the post a few weeks later saying I had been reported for dangerous driving, weaving and such like. I had not hindered anyone and, in my opinion, had conducted a safe pass. Was I wrong or was Mr passer just being a jealous knob because my car (GT4) had much better acceleration than his?

[Clivew]

Shoukie said:

If it's a motorway then you should move over 2 lanes to do your overtake so that they can still pull out.

You obviously haven't travelled on Scottish moorways then! Most of them up here are only two lanes wide.

[r129sl]

One of the causes of poor lane discipline in Britain is the tendency of drivers using lane 2 not to give way to those in lane 1 who intend to move into lane 2 and themselves perform an overtake.

In other words, nobody moves over because tts like you don't let them back out.

[Centurion07]

I tend to put my indicator on even if there is a car nearly/alongside me so that 1. he might be nice & slow a tad OR MOVE INTO THE HUGE EMPTY LANE NEXT TO HIM THAT I CAN SEE IS EMPTY SO HE SHOULD DAMN WELL KNOW THAT TOO, to let me out, or 2. if he doesn't, it lets the car behind him know my intentions so he has plenty of time to do something about it.

To be fair, if the nearest car to me doesn't deviate from his braindead path, fair enough, he is pretty close and may not realise his surroundings, but if the next one along, having had plenty of warning of my impending lane change can't be arsed to either move over or at the very least not accelerate and thus close the gap I had planned to use, they can get to fk!

I had a guy the other day pull into lane 2 from lane 1, just as I'd moved from lane 3 to 2. I was prepared for it as I realised I was going to be in his blind spot to some degree, which is the only reason we didn't have a coming together, but when I flashed & tooted to let him know I was there, he still completed his move anyway even though he was only about a foot in front of me, then when I overtake him he gets the hump like it was MY fault. tt.