Incorrect advisories on MOT certificate
Incorrect advisories on MOT certificate
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Sparta VAG

Original Poster:

436 posts

174 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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My car had its MOT this week and failed the first time round on a tyre and had several advisories on the brakes.

I replaced the tyre and had new pads and disks put on all round. The car passed the MOT but the certificate still listed a load of advisories from the first failed test saying that the pads were worn and disks corroded, even though the garage had just put brand new pads and disks on.

How can I get a new and correct MOT certificate that doesn't list all the brake advisories? I want to sell the car soon and don't want to sell with a wrong MOT that says the brakes are on their way out when they're brand new!

E30M3SE

8,492 posts

223 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Don't see an issue here, you have an invoice for the work on the advisories carried out do your not?

What more proof does any prospective new owner need that the advised work was carried out?

Mroad

829 posts

242 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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If it only failed on the tyres then it only needed a partial restest, the MOT tester would only check the tyres were now legal and wouldn't check the brakes. The advisory would remain.
You would only be charged for one MOT test, the partial retest for the tyres was probably free or at most half the normal test fee.
If you want the advisories removed you would have to get a full test done again. I wouldn't worry about it, it's pretty obvious if new brakes have been fitted.

Riley Blue

23,203 posts

253 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Possibly the OP doesn't want potential purchasers to know that the pads/disks were shagged in case it gives a misleading impression of how well he maintains his car.

Checkmate

761 posts

234 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Most cars I have bought the vendor sneakily removed the advisory sheet from the mot, and misplaced it somewhere...

Pickled

2,059 posts

170 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Checkmate said:
Most cars I have bought the vendor sneakily removed the advisory sheet from the mot, and misplaced it somewhere...
Doen't work with the new style certificate, it has the advisories listed on it

Garvin

5,594 posts

204 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Checkmate said:
Most cars I have bought the vendor sneakily removed the advisory sheet from the mot, and misplaced it somewhere...
Good job you can check them on-line then.

Checkmate

761 posts

234 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Pickled said:
Doen't work with the new style certificate, it has the advisories listed on it
Ahh I wasn't aware they had started to do this, might be easier for me to avoid buying heaps in the future then!

E30M3SE

8,492 posts

223 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Riley Blue said:
Possibly the OP doesn't want potential purchasers to know that the pads/disks were shagged in case it gives a misleading impression of how well he maintains his car.
Would have been a fail instead of an advisory if this was really the case would it not?

Riley Blue

23,203 posts

253 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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E30M3SE said:
Riley Blue said:
Possibly the OP doesn't want potential purchasers to know that the pads/disks were shagged in case it gives a misleading impression of how well he maintains his car.
Would have been a fail instead of an advisory if this was really the case would it not?
No idea, I'm not an expert on the degree of shaggedness of the OP's car's braking system - enough to warrant an immediate disk/pad replacement apparently.

calibrax

4,788 posts

238 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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My garage do a pre-MOT check and advise me of anything that would fail or cause advisories. I tell them what to fix, they fix it, and only then do they MOT the car.


pherlopolus

2,185 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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calibrax said:
My garage do a pre-MOT check and advise me of anything that would fail or cause advisories. I tell them what to fix, they fix it, and only then do they MOT the car.
but that means you are paying them to do the checks twice?

Jimmy No Hands

5,091 posts

183 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Checkmate said:
Most cars I have bought the vendor sneakily removed the advisory sheet from the mot, and misplaced it somewhere...
This x 3.

Although a non-issue really, still annoying.

Dave_

530 posts

231 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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As said if the only failure was a tyre , the only thing checked at the retest was the tyre so the advisory on the brakes still stands.

Your only option is to pay for a full MOT again. Even then who's to say the examiner wont advise on something he missed the first time?

CapriV6S

421 posts

169 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Invoices to show that you have taken the advice of MOT station and paid to have the work done, even though you weren't legally obliged to have the work done yet. So-what if brakes required work??, they wear out over time and they've been repaired now. It's not incorrect advisory on MOT cert dated from whenever, just maybe out-of-date now. What's problem???

Edit - ok, have just re-read this post. You did the work yourself maybe?????

Edited by CapriV6S on Saturday 8th September 18:22

Dogwatch

6,375 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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It's only an advisory, the car passed the MOT (on brakes). Punter can check for himself that new items have been fitted so can't use it as an excuse to haggle down the asking price.

paintman

7,860 posts

217 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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If you believe your MOT wasn't properly conducted you should raise the matter with VoSA.
Advisories is something of concern as it is not unusual for some garages to put a nice long list of things that they specialise in & then offer to carry out repairs at a 'special price' for their victim. Seen this a few times with family cars.
Problem is that as an advisory isn't a fail & is just the 'tester's opinion' you will struggle to prove attempt fraud.
Perhaps it would be better to have a system that prohibits testers/their employers from carrying out repairs to vehicles they have tested?

Sparta VAG

Original Poster:

436 posts

174 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Riley Blue said:
Possibly the OP doesn't want potential purchasers to know that the pads/disks were shagged in case it gives a misleading impression of how well he maintains his car.
This. I'm happy for anyone purchasing to view an MOT online or see a certificate beforehand and would prefer people to see one without the advisories that were repaired at the time of the MOT but I can live with it if not, I've still got the invoice to show the work was done and it's blatantly obvious that the pads/disks are all new and shiny so not too much of a big deal.

Have to say am pleased that the advisories are now printed on the same sheet as the main certificate now. Personally I think the likes of Autotrader ads etc should be required to link to the Directgov website so that their MOT history can be viewed and verified by potential purchasers but that's for another thread.

Thanks all for replies.

Sparta VAG

Original Poster:

436 posts

174 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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paintman said:
If you believe your MOT wasn't properly conducted you should raise the matter with VoSA.
Advisories is something of concern as it is not unusual for some garages to put a nice long list of things that they specialise in & then offer to carry out repairs at a 'special price' for their victim. Seen this a few times with family cars.
Problem is that as an advisory isn't a fail & is just the 'tester's opinion' you will struggle to prove attempt fraud.
Perhaps it would be better to have a system that prohibits testers/their employers from carrying out repairs to vehicles they have tested?
I'm quite happy with the MOT, and the MOT'ing garage is separate from the one that carried it out. I'm just a bit OCD about having an advisory-free MOT certificate but not going to lose sleep over it.

otolith

67,751 posts

231 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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It's not unusual to see advisories on one year's MOT miraculously heal themselves by the next one.