what are these cables that protude from lamposts
what are these cables that protude from lamposts
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tom2019

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770 posts

224 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Sometimes I see two cables laid out across the road in pairs.

wtf are they?

Mr Pies

8,995 posts

216 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Traffic density monitoring?

Puddenchucker

5,841 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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For counting traffic.

98elise

32,563 posts

190 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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They measure speed, volume and direction of traffic, for surveys.

Monkeylegend

29,207 posts

260 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Electricity for the light bulb.

Teddye4687

377 posts

177 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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I've always wondered if thy monitor speeds. Tin foil hat, but I expect to see camera vans based on results.

What if someone were to space the lines a little further apart? smile

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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They are tiny little speed umps for tiny little cars that ants and other insects drive.

Strawman

6,463 posts

236 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Teddye4687 said:
I've always wondered if thy monitor speeds.
They don't, to do that you'd need to know the wheelbase of the vehicle that's crossed over them which obviously varies quite a bit between a smart car and a bus.

Spitfire2

1,968 posts

215 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Strawman said:
They don't, to do that you'd need to know the wheelbase of the vehicle that's crossed over them which obviously varies quite a bit between a smart car and a bus.
When there are 2 cables why would wheelbase be relevant? They know the distance between the cables.

r1ch

2,955 posts

225 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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I've often wondered this too, so are they just to measure volume of traffic throughout the day then?

grahamr88

426 posts

202 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Strawman said:
They don't, to do that you'd need to know the wheelbase of the vehicle that's crossed over them which obviously varies quite a bit between a smart car and a bus.
No you don't, that's why they're in pairs. The front wheels will go over one then the other, and the back wheels will then do the same.

Strawman

6,463 posts

236 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Spitfire2 said:
When there are 2 cables why would wheelbase be relevant? They know the distance between the cables.
There are two cables to tell which side of the road the vehicle was on, which cable was driven over first tells you that. Some traffic planning person was on here before confirming they are for monitoring traffic density/flow not recording individual speeds, which they aren't set up to do.

Zyp

16,077 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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grahamr88 said:
Strawman said:
They don't, to do that you'd need to know the wheelbase of the vehicle that's crossed over them which obviously varies quite a bit between a smart car and a bus.
No you don't, that's why they're in pairs. The front wheels will go over one then the other, and the back wheels will then do the same.
What if someone on a unicycle goes over them?
Will it send the black box into a tizzy, waiting for the rear wheels....?

Teddye4687

377 posts

177 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Strawman said:
They don't, to do that you'd need to know the wheelbase of the vehicle that's crossed over them which obviously varies quite a bit between a smart car and a bus.
I was thinking something simpler - how long it takes to hit the second line from hitting the first (wheelbase bears no impact on this speed measurement)

EddieFelson

1,168 posts

243 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Teddye4687 said:
I was thinking something simpler - how long it takes to hit the second line from hitting the first (wheelbase bears no impact on this speed measurement)
Wheel size would

Puddenchucker

5,841 posts

247 months

Dogwatch

6,381 posts

251 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Teddye4687 said:
Strawman said:
They don't, to do that you'd need to know the wheelbase of the vehicle that's crossed over them which obviously varies quite a bit between a smart car and a bus.
I was thinking something simpler - how long it takes to hit the second line from hitting the first (wheelbase bears no impact on this speed measurement)
That's what the constabulary used to think too in simpler times when they lurked nearby with a meter connected to said box and radioed the 'stopper' down the road to haul in the miscreant.

Spotting two black lines across the road raised two questions - was it a speed trap or a traffic counter?

Teddye4687

377 posts

177 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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EddieFelson said:
Wheel size would
How? If it takes 2 seconds between contact, you're travelling at (Distance/Time), regardless of wheel size..

Puddenchucker

5,841 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Dogwatch said:
Spotting two black lines across the road raised two questions - was it a speed trap or a traffic counter?
IIRC 2 tubes was a traffic counter, 3 tubes was a speed trap.

wst

3,504 posts

190 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Two wires so they know which direction the traffic is going...

3 wires is a speed trap. Which is kind of handy when it comes to those blasted Truvelos - they can't see you until you're on the 3 lines (when they do the actual speed measurement) so don't be speeding over those 3 lines and you're fine (I did a lot of research after suspecting I triggered one on the A1 northbound once...)...