'Free' HP and torque
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rhinochopig

Original Poster:

17,932 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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http://www.millersoils.co.uk/nanodrive.asp

Discuss..biggrin

They certainly seem to be getting some interesting results and a couple of the marque specific magazines are reporting some even bigger increases than Millers themselves are claiming.

jatinder

1,667 posts

240 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Sounds like snake oil... but millers do seem like a reputable brand!

I have normal millers in my VX and have had a dyno done so have a baseline figure.

I'll be changing the oil in December so will get another dyno done before my remap!

rhinochopig

Original Poster:

17,932 posts

225 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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No views on this?

Thought it would garnered more discussion given Miller's rep and the claims they are making.

My lancer is due an oil change soon, so I've ordered some to see if I can see a subjective difference.

I'm curious to whether their friction reduction claims make a noticeable difference in spool and boost threshold given the turbo uses journal bearings. Some reports are claiming lower oil temps too and that I can test.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

282 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Seems like a narrow temperature range to get 33% more efficiency. Between 110 and 110 degrees.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

292 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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If it works they should call the major OEMs and tell them about this huge reduction in fleet CO2 that they can provide. Then they'll all become millionaires.

Their technical genius is being wasted selling after market to race teams.

mmm-five

12,273 posts

311 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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The 'benefits' look to be within the range of tolerance for the type of dyno used in each case.

According to their own data, they only did one-off tests - i.e. they dynoed it with their old formulation, swapped the oil out and ran it again with their new formulation. They never went back to the old formulation to check whether the power went down again.

They also note that in 2 of the tests they pre-warmed the oil to 90 degrees or so, yet there's no mention of this for the baseline oil.

It could also be that their old formulation was much worse than that of their competitors, and they may still be worse.

b0rk

2,412 posts

173 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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The claimed figures all appear to against previous version's of their oil or "generic" road oil any data against a similar premium fully synthetic? e.g. Castrol, Mobil1, Shell, Fuchs, Gulf etc/...

I'd suspect there is massive difference between budget, premium and super premium fully synthetic oil due to the additive packages. Also from reading the manufacturers datasheet is this really a "road" oil or a track oil that happens to work in road engines and how does it compare to other track oils...

xreyuk

665 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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There was already a massive thread on this like 2 months ago.