higher mileage remaps
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Im considering having my car mapped. At 106k a company told me that with this sort of mileage it could cause more problems than its worth. Any truth in this? We're talking the 1.8 20VT from the VAG family if anyones interested.
New maf, coil packs, cambelt, water pump and full service very recently. Well looked after & no engine probs.
New maf, coil packs, cambelt, water pump and full service very recently. Well looked after & no engine probs.
Not just the consumables you mention will suffer extra strain as a result of a remap.
If it were just the engine personally I'd think what the hell and remap it despite the experts advising me otherwise. A new VAG 1.8T lump isn't that expensive second hand.
All the other components though- who knows what condition they are in or how wear will accelerate say on a well used clutch/flywheel/suspension etc etc.
The question is: are you feeling lucky?
The experts, who want to sell remaps, are advising against it. That's either a unique business model or they care about their customers.
If it were just the engine personally I'd think what the hell and remap it despite the experts advising me otherwise. A new VAG 1.8T lump isn't that expensive second hand.
All the other components though- who knows what condition they are in or how wear will accelerate say on a well used clutch/flywheel/suspension etc etc.
The question is: are you feeling lucky?
The experts, who want to sell remaps, are advising against it. That's either a unique business model or they care about their customers.
The remappers are advising against it because they don't want you to come back and complain that "they" blew up your engine, I presume.
So long as that engine has been well maintained with high-quality fluids all its life, and hasn't been hammered from cold/is allowed to warm down properly, it will be fine.
It's your clutch and flywheel I'd be worried about.
So long as that engine has been well maintained with high-quality fluids all its life, and hasn't been hammered from cold/is allowed to warm down properly, it will be fine.
It's your clutch and flywheel I'd be worried about.
Bradderz352 said:
Im considering having my car mapped. At 106k a company told me that with this sort of mileage it could cause more problems than its worth. Any truth in this? We're talking the 1.8 20VT from the VAG family if anyones interested.
New maf, coil packs, cambelt, water pump and full service very recently. Well looked after & no engine probs.
What company? What exactly did they say would be issues?New maf, coil packs, cambelt, water pump and full service very recently. Well looked after & no engine probs.
If it's running well I can't really see an issue. 100k on a modern engine is not a lot of miles really.
A lex said:
I put a BlueFin remap on my 120k mile, 9 yr old Mini ONE - but the Mini is a bit of a special case in that its basically overwriting with an enhanced 'Cooper' map - so far so good 
I'm not sure if I'm allowed/supposed to comment on your decision. But remapping a N/A 1.6 Mini is something that would never ever cross my mind for many good reasons.A lex said:
StottyZr said:
I'm not sure if I'm allowed/supposed to comment on your decision. But remapping a N/A 1.6 Mini is something that would never ever cross my mind for many good reasons.
Well, that unfortunately shows you to be the ignorant one.The only difference between a ONE and a COOPER (apart from a taller 5th ratio) is the engine map - on WOT the One will only open the throttle to 75%.
90bhp -> 120ish for £200 is not to be sniffed at, and it completely transforms the car.
Neil Birkitt of VW Driver magazine has a mk4 golf 20VT that has been remapped for a large chunk of it's life.
It was primarily a daily drive/track car. Last I heard it had passed 245k on it's original engine/turbo/gearbox/running gear but had been stripped so that a new Ko4 turbo + front mount could be fitted to increase power to 250+hp.
Have a browse of VW Driver as there were lots of updates but generally speaking few mechanical failures!
It was primarily a daily drive/track car. Last I heard it had passed 245k on it's original engine/turbo/gearbox/running gear but had been stripped so that a new Ko4 turbo + front mount could be fitted to increase power to 250+hp.
Have a browse of VW Driver as there were lots of updates but generally speaking few mechanical failures!
A lex said:
Well, that unfortunately shows you to be the ignorant one.
The only difference between a ONE and a COOPER (apart from a taller 5th ratio) is the engine map - on WOT the One will only open the throttle to 75%.
90bhp -> 120ish for £200 is not to be sniffed at, and it completely transforms the car.
So true, that is a performance increase bargain.The only difference between a ONE and a COOPER (apart from a taller 5th ratio) is the engine map - on WOT the One will only open the throttle to 75%.
90bhp -> 120ish for £200 is not to be sniffed at, and it completely transforms the car.
Thanks guys. Company is autologic. Got a friend working there who gave this advice and offered to do it cheap. He did also mention that theyre not that interested as they would have to write their own software to map my car as its older than what they usually work on. Clutch being replaced next week, new ko3s turbo just installed aswell. But will now look to use one of the many other companies that offer this service.
Great help ppl thanks.
Great help ppl thanks.
A lex said:
Well, that unfortunately shows you to be the ignorant one.
The only difference between a ONE and a COOPER (apart from a taller 5th ratio) is the engine map - on WOT the One will only open the throttle to 75%.
90bhp -> 120ish for £200 is not to be sniffed at, and it completely transforms the car.
That is an amazing piece of automotive trivia The only difference between a ONE and a COOPER (apart from a taller 5th ratio) is the engine map - on WOT the One will only open the throttle to 75%.
90bhp -> 120ish for £200 is not to be sniffed at, and it completely transforms the car.
Stored.
hope its true lol
There's no yes or no answer to this question. In my experience, extra boost does have a habit of overloading the weakest related component. I suspect you might end up chasing boost leaks here and there or a malfunctioning control sensor etc. None of them in themselves would put me off a remap on an older car but they can be frustrating to track down.
The last two older cars i've mapped have both suffered directly as a result, even though the driving characteristics were a lot more satisfactory.
I think Autologic are a software developer who license out maps to independent installers?
The last two older cars i've mapped have both suffered directly as a result, even though the driving characteristics were a lot more satisfactory.
I think Autologic are a software developer who license out maps to independent installers?
No reason not to have it done, assuming the car's in good nick. Clearly if the clutch is knackered, the tyres are bald, and the gearbox is whining like a sleep-deprived three-year-old, you should give it a miss. But if the car's in that condition, you shouldn't really be driving it......
StottyZr said:
A lex said:
StottyZr said:
I'm not sure if I'm allowed/supposed to comment on your decision. But remapping a N/A 1.6 Mini is something that would never ever cross my mind for many good reasons.
Well, that unfortunately shows you to be the ignorant one.The only difference between a ONE and a COOPER (apart from a taller 5th ratio) is the engine map - on WOT the One will only open the throttle to 75%.
90bhp -> 120ish for £200 is not to be sniffed at, and it completely transforms the car.
I used Revo on a golf gti with 101k on after I changed a few bits and cleared all warning lights. Made a heck of a difference, however maf went which wad 60 quid, and clutch started to slip ad I was selling it. These May of happened anyway. Buy an engine diagnostic tool off ebay for 20 pound, it will pay for itself.
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