eBay buyer wants to pay for shed via PayPal
eBay buyer wants to pay for shed via PayPal
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airportparking

Original Poster:

1,314 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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So I put up one of our shed runner on eBay for a quick auction, it had a bit of T and T so I was happy as long as I get more then scrap value.

So result I thought it went for £500 the guy has good feedback and he is local.

Now the fishy (to me) bit, he only uses texting, says he can't pickup phone at work, fair enough, we arrange collection for today. So I now get a text saying he only can pay via PayPal, as he can't get 500 out in one go and he doesn't feel comfortable paying cash.

Is this some sort of scam I'm not aware of?

DavidY

4,492 posts

313 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Possibly...

He collects car, then a few days later files a PayPal dispute, as usual PayPal will side with the buyer, you have no car and no money

But....

He could be genuine

I'd make him pay cash (give him a couple of days) or re-list it with a non-paying bidder complaint.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

257 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Absolutely /\

If I sold a car like this, I would insist on cash. Far too easy to raise a dispute after the deal has been done.

joewilliams

2,004 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Ebay pretty much demand that you accept PayPal - I don't think you can claim he's a non-paying bidder just because you don't want to accept it.

clunkbox

237 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Could be he doesn't have cash in his debit account but can pay by credit card. Not a bad idea if you are short on money and need a car quickly.

Sadly I think ebay rules state you have to accept paypal nowadays, so the chap seems within his rights to want use it but I understand your concerns!


airportparking

Original Poster:

1,314 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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What a piece of work this guy is, I have no idea how he has such high positive feedback

He is refusing to pay cash now, PayPal only or he says I can stuff it!

I'm livid !!!!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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airportparking said:
What a piece of work this guy is, I have no idea how he has such high positive feedback

He is refusing to pay cash now, PayPal only or he says I can stuff it!

I'm livid !!!!
I wouldn't take Paypal for a car.

Sir Bagalot

7,089 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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From memory paypal works differently with cars. You can't do a 'I didn't receive' etc. However you could use a dodgy credit card and get a chargeback.

For £500 quid I wouldn't chance it. Cash only. Don't all bank cards have £500 max daily limit? Online transfer?

airportparking

Original Poster:

1,314 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Your kidding! So no protection at all for buyer? So I'm screwed

DavidY said:
Possibly...

He collects car, then a few days later files a PayPal dispute, as usual PayPal will side with the buyer, you have no car and no money

But....

He could be genuine

I'd make him pay cash (give him a couple of days) or re-list it with a non-paying bidder complaint.

Jazoli

9,649 posts

279 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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There is no way on earth I would accept Paypal for a car, all it takes is for one tiny nggle to annoy the buyer and you can guarantee a dispute will be raised, cash only, no exceptions.

The buyer can draw the cash out with a PayPal access card (if he has one)

I would let the buyer know that PayPal is not acceptable, cash on collection only, believe me it is not worth the pain otherwise smile

Galsia

2,266 posts

219 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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You don't have to sell it to him. Cancel and relist, its safer.

Davi

17,153 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Sir Bagalot said:
From memory paypal works differently with cars. You can't do a 'I didn't receive' etc. However you could use a dodgy credit card and get a chargeback.

For £500 quid I wouldn't chance it. Cash only. Don't all bank cards have £500 max daily limit? Online transfer?
Think mine is still £350 max daily - I know I couldn't get £500 out a few days ago paying for a car!

Online transfer is the answer, what possible reason can he have for not agreeing to that?!

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Not entirely. I'm sure PayPal rules mean a buyer cannot reverse a transaction for cars and a few other things. But I wouldn't risk it. He's taking the p*ss out of you.

Perd Hapley

1,750 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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clunkbox said:
Could be he doesn't have cash in his debit account but can pay by credit card. Not a bad idea if you are short on money and need a car quickly.

Sadly I think ebay rules state you have to accept paypal nowadays, so the chap seems within his rights to want use it but I understand your concerns!
Not on Motors.

RP1

252 posts

179 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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You don;t have to take paypal on cars as you can tick the box the remove it as a payment method. I certainly would not take anything other than cash for a car of that value. As well as the fact paypal will charge you a fortune to receive the cash i'd be far too wary of falling victim to the sheer number of scams that go on related to it!

Could he not do a bank transfer instead?

McSam

6,753 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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There's a very simple rule for sellers with PayPal.

Never, ever accept payment by PayPal unless the item is being sent by a recorded delivery service. This could be a courier or RM "Signed For" services, but absolutely no method that does not have an official proof of delivery. I've heard of cases where a document signed by the buyer to indicate they accept the item as described and have collected it is not deemed sufficient proof by PayPal, and they can still refund the buyer.

If the guy refuses to pay by PayPal when you specifically stated cash on collection only, he can fk off.

eBay do not mandate paying by PayPal for collection items, as far as I am aware, and certainly not on the Motors section

Bear in mind PayPal fees are 4%, and eBay final value fees are 10%. When taking cash on collection you can do a Cancel Transaction via eBay, still both leave each other positive feedback, but pay no fees.

EFA - Final value fees aren't always that much on cars, actually, but the point about them still stands!

Edited by McSam on Thursday 11th October 11:51

clunkbox

237 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Perd Hapley said:
Not on Motors.
I stand corrected. Tell him to go do one then. Offer to drive him to a bank to take cash out.

DanielJames

7,543 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Unless you can get more details, like his address, tell him to bks

cash only!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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If he can't get 500 out today, arrange collection for tomorrow.

Birdster

2,548 posts

172 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Nope, no way. Not for a collection item. You won't have a leg to stand on if he files a dispute. Which there is a 99.99% chance that he will.

What plank bids on a £500 shed and then says that they haven't got access to cash?

Any real world person would have the reddies.

This guy willl moan about lacquer peel, dust inbetween the handbrake lever, and non main dealer FSH and file a dispute on a shed.

Already the guy sounds like a tt.

Walk away!