Tyre question
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Sid123

Original Poster:

272 posts

207 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Bought some new tyres for a 928 in 2009 and shortly after the car ended up in storage (indoors) until now. At the MOT the tester noted that the sidewalls of the rears were very cracked but passed the car. Upon inspection I notice the rears were manufactured in '01 and '02 so at best were already 7 years old when I purchased them.

It never occurred to me to check the manufacture date and now three and a half years have passed. The tyres have to be changed but how should the deal be struck?
1. Tough luck, much too much time has passed and it's down to me.
2. I should never have been sold out of date tyres to start with irrespective of how much time has passed and they should be replaced FOC. The tyre fitter is someone I have always used over 10 years and he does not deny supplying and fitting them originally.
3. We go 50/50 on two new rear tyres at cost price.

Anyone have any thoughts/similar occurrence and how best to proceed?

Any advice much appreciated.
Thanks

andym1603

1,885 posts

202 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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I would say 1, tough luck.
When you get the tyres replaced maybe check the dates prior to fitting for future peace of mind.

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

271 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Given the time that has passed, you don't stand a chance.

Don't feel too bad. Plenty of people get caught like this. Now you can make sure it doesn't happen again.

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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1 I'm afraid.

There's no hard and fast rule on selling tyres, 2 years is the usual rule for the pros, but as tyres can last 5 years in storage then another 5 years on the car people can push the limits.

The tyres are probably cracked because they stood for such a long time. Did you keep an eye on inflation monthly?

Kolbenkopp

2,345 posts

181 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Really find it quite shocking that they sold you 7 year old tyres. Assuming they made no mention of the fact and that there was no big discount involved, I'd go for option 3 and tell them they are lucky you only just noticed. If they do not offer a sizeable discount for the replacements, I'd certainly take my business elsewhere.

Hope the 928 is fine otherwise? What great piece of kit!

Captain Cadillac

2,974 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Always check date codes on tires before they're installed. When I had the rears replaced on one of my cars recently I was nearly sold 6 year old Pirellis. I had them stop what they were doing and get fresh stock.

Pints

18,451 posts

224 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Captain Cadillac said:
Always check date codes on tires before they're installed. When I had the rears replaced on one of my cars recently I was nearly sold 6 year old Pirellis. I had them stop what they were doing and get fresh stock.
What would you consider acceptable?
I've never thought to check before.

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Weird sizes that are difficult to come by may well be older than you'd expect. It will also depend on the individual dealer The general rule is that (if stored correctly) they can be 'as new' up to 5 years after the date of production.

My personal threshold is two years.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

254 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Probably be ok as long as they were stored away from sunlight, frost etc. Still buyer beware though, not many people know the date of manufacturing is printed on the sidewall.

LuS1fer

43,517 posts

275 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Unfortunately, tyre sellers sell tyres anticipating they will be used rather than stored so(1).

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

295 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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1. Obviously.

Also how have you made the rear tyres on a 928 last for over 3 years?

Dracoro

9,026 posts

275 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
Also how have you made the rear tyres on a 928 last for over 3 years?
Did you read the first line of the thread? biggrin

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

295 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Dracoro said:
Captain Muppet said:
Also how have you made the rear tyres on a 928 last for over 3 years?
Did you read the first line of the thread? biggrin
No, I just jumped in on the option 1 bandwagon biggrin

Sid123

Original Poster:

272 posts

207 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Thanks for the comments. I am still waiting for the guy to come back to me but suspect we will end up with something close to a 50/50 as he has since said he will wear some of it and get it sorted out.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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PH nerds get all excited that any tyre over 6 years old will land you straight in a ditch but I've seen no evidence of this whatsoever.

johnoz

1,149 posts

222 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
PH nerds get all excited that any tyre over 6 years old will land you straight in a ditch but I've seen no evidence of this whatsoever.
+1 We have just taken off the original tyres off a mini that was made in 1981.

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
PH nerds get all excited that any tyre over 6 years old will land you straight in a ditch but I've seen no evidence of this whatsoever.
No, but there's very good reasons, with a basis in science, as to why tyres which have been exposed to the elements for longer than 6 years are past their best.

Rubin215

4,200 posts

186 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Serves you right for not wearing them out sooner!

Unless you have been seriously ill or in prison, you have no excuse...

calibrax

4,788 posts

241 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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If you buy a loaf of bread, leave it in cupboard then discover it two years later, you won't get much joy when you take it back to Tesco.

Same thing applies here. They expect you to use them when you buy them, not store them indefinitely.

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

271 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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jon- said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
PH nerds get all excited that any tyre over 6 years old will land you straight in a ditch but I've seen no evidence of this whatsoever.
No, but there's very good reasons, with a basis in science, as to why tyres which have been exposed to the elements for longer than 6 years are past their best.
Quite. You only have to look at tyres used in the 'leisure' industry to seeplenty of evidence of that.