Smoke-free Private Vehicles Bill in Parliament today...

[C8H18Head]

Basically, a Bill to amend the Health Act 2006 to make provision for a ban on smoking in private vehicles where there are people under the age of 18 present.

How I survived my childhood is beyond me...

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2012-13/smokef...

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbi...

1 Amendments to the Health Act 2006
(1) The Health Act 2006 is amended as follows.
(2) After section 8, insert—
“8A Offence of failing to prevent smoking in a private vehicle when
children are present
(1) It is the duty of any person who drives a private vehicle to ensure that
that vehicle is smoke-free whenever a child or children under the age of
18 are in such vehicle or part of such vehicle.
(2) A person who fails to comply with the duty in subsection (1) commits
an offence.
(3) A person convicted of an offence under this section who has not
previously been convicted of such an offence shall have the option of
attending a smoke-free driving awareness course in place of paying a
fine under subsection (4).
(4) A person who does not wish to attend an awareness course or who has
previously been convicted of an offence under this section is liable on
summary conviction to a fine of £60.

Edited by C8H18Head on Friday 2nd November 14:31

[HorneyMX5]

a smoke-free driving awareness course? WT actual F!

[Kozy]

While it is overbearing, typical nannying, I agree with it frankly.

I can't stand seeing aholes smoking with the windows up with kids in the car.

[clockworks]

Funny how something is totally legal, but you can't do it in an enclosed space next to a 17 year-old.

[Twincam16]

Kozy said:

While it is overbearing, typical nannying, I agree with it frankly.

I can't stand seeing aholes smoking with the windows up with kids in the car.

This is true.

However, what is it about cars that causes governments to suffer legislative diarhorrea?

By the same reason (moreso, in fact), the police would be out there arresting women who smoke and drink while pregnant. The effects are far, far worse and completely inescapable.

So what is it about cars that makes governments try to legislate?

[TheEnd]

I'm a smoker, and I think it's OK.
The age might seem a bit high, but but it matches the laws.

[Horse Pop]

clockworks said:

Funny how something is totally legal, but you can't do it in an enclosed space next to a 17 year-old.

That probably covers a few things?

[McSam]

Horse Pop said:

clockworks said:

Funny how something is totally legal, but you can't do it in an enclosed space next to a 17 year-old.

That probably covers a few things?

Quite

I do agree with this, though, just as someone has mentioned, I hate seeing uncaring parents doing this to their children.

[Perd Hapley]

Less smoking in cars will be of great benefit to second hand car buyers.

[FourWheelDrift]

It's the revenge of the no mobile phone/eating in a car/drinking in a car law. If you can't do those why should you still be able to juggle a cigarette, light it and smoke it when driving as well?

They'll ban sneezing next, just you see.

[Kozy]

FourWheelDrift said:

It's the revenge of the no mobile phone/eating in a car/drinking in a car law. If you can't do those why should you still be able to juggle a cigarette, light it and smoke it when driving as well?

They'll ban sneezing next, just you see.

You can still smoke in your car, just not if their are children in it.

Smoking requires far less concentration than drinking, eating and talking on a phone.

[smartphone hater]

I think I may buy shares in an electric cigarette company.

[11110111]

if only people used their common sense and done this already...

[Bursar]

The penalty is a fine of £60 and it's non-endorsable. A simple speeding offence has a fine of £60 and is endorsable.

Speed awareness courses generally cost a reasonable amount more than the fine, but you avoid the points.

Who will pay more than the cost of the smoking fine to attend a course, when there are no points to be saved?

[kambites]

I have no objection to people smoking in their own car on their own; however the number of people who seem to think it's fine to throw cigarette ends out of the window or smoke with people who have no choice (such as young children) in the car with them is pretty shocking.

It's a shame that we have to resort to draconian laws to enforce what should be common courtesy and common sense.

[BUG4LIFE]

How can smoking while driving be legal anyway, surely it's dangerous, as your hands should be busy doing the driving thing?

[Jamie VTS]

BUG4LIFE said:

How can smoking while driving be legal anyway, surely it's dangerous, as your hands should be busy doing the driving thing?

It requires no more attention than picking your nose.

[smartphone hater]

BUG4LIFE said:

How can smoking while driving be legal anyway, surely it's dangerous, as your hands should be busy doing the driving thing?

I knew it wouldn't take long.

[SamHH]

Twincam16 said:

So what is it about cars that makes governments try to legislate?

Is legislation relating to cars more common than any other sort? How are you measuring it?

[Perd Hapley]

kambites said:

I have no objection to people smoking in their own car on their own; however the number of people who seem to think it's fine to throw cigarette ends out of the window or smoke with people who have no choice (such as young children) in the car with them is pretty shocking.

It's a shame that we have to resort to draconian laws to enforce what should be common courtesy and common sense.

Oh yeah, cigarette butts out the window. I hate that so much.