Bus Companies & Private Plates
Bus Companies & Private Plates
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SebastienClement

Original Poster:

1,952 posts

170 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Why do bus companies seem to have a lot of private plates, and swap them around vehicle regularly?

I assume it's some sort of corp tax dodge?

GoneAnon

1,703 posts

182 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Coaches are very expensive so a private plate is a cheap way to make a coach look younger than it is.

Never heard of them moving plates around their fleet, though - that sounds like an extra expense the operators don't need.

SebastienClement

Original Poster:

1,952 posts

170 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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GoneAnon said:
Coaches are very expensive so a private plate is a cheap way to make a coach look younger than it is.

Never heard of them moving plates around their fleet, though - that sounds like an extra expense the operators don't need.
The local operators coaches are all <5 years old though. Plates are regularly swapped round every month according to the 'Enthusiasts' section of their website.

TheTurbonator

2,792 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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A local bus company round here has recently changed all the panels on its busses and bought private plates for them, to make them look brand new. They even have the new front end of the Wright Gemini 2s but underneath they're still the old same Volvo B7s underneath.

To the Joe public they look brand new, it's only because I work in the trade that I know different.


Roo

11,504 posts

237 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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At £80 a go that would seem a pretty pointless thing to do.

Unless.........





They're running the plates simultaneously on several coaches.

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Its simple stuff, its just makes the coaches ageless.

The company near me has most of their fleet on private plates, they're pretty much all used on school contracts and i'll bet there would be some parents kicking up if they realised their kids were travelling on 20 year old coaches regardless of how well maintained they are.

GTO Scott

3,816 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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SebastienClement said:
The local operators coaches are all <5 years old though. Plates are regularly swapped round every month according to the 'Enthusiasts' section of their website.
Which company is it?

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Nickyboy said:
Its simple stuff, its just makes the coaches ageless.

The company near me has most of their fleet on private plates, they're pretty much all used on school contracts and i'll bet there would be some parents kicking up if they realised their kids were travelling on 20 year old coaches regardless of how well maintained they are.
True enough. Although I always get a kick out of sitting behind the driver on those really old buses with manual gearboxes. When they're really experienced, it's incredible how smoothly they manage to drive.

calibrax

4,788 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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SebastienClement said:
Plates are regularly swapped round every month according to the 'Enthusiasts' section of their website.
Can't see them doing that. Maybe they mean that they swap the routes between different vehicles so the private plates are seen more.

SebastienClement

Original Poster:

1,952 posts

170 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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calibrax said:
Can't see them doing that. Maybe they mean that they swap the routes between different vehicles so the private plates are seen more.
No, they have a whole page with stuff like "Bus 398 now reg A10 EYD | Bus 420 (formerly A10 EYD) now reg xxxxxx" etc...

BMR

962 posts

208 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Nickyboy said:
Its simple stuff, its just makes the coaches ageless.

The company near me has most of their fleet on private plates, they're pretty much all used on school contracts and i'll bet there would be some parents kicking up if they realised their kids were travelling on 20 year old coaches regardless of how well maintained they are.
I'm sure one of our local bus operators is still using the same private plate coaches they took me to school on 15 years ago which were about 20 years old then!

gtdc

4,259 posts

313 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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SebastienClement said:
according to the 'Enthusiasts' section of their website.
That takes niche to a new level.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

295 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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SebastienClement said:
calibrax said:
Can't see them doing that. Maybe they mean that they swap the routes between different vehicles so the private plates are seen more.
No, they have a whole page with stuff like "Bus 398 now reg A10 EYD | Bus 420 (formerly A10 EYD) now reg xxxxxx" etc...
Link? I want to feel like less of a dork and sniggering at the enthusiasts site of a local coach company might just do it.

GTO Scott

3,816 posts

254 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Is it EYMS by any chance?

Lots of reasons to swap plates around:
• Hide vehicle age
• Contract-related (i.e. a group of Park & Ride buses may have plates ending in 'PAR' etc)
• 'Local' plates fitted (one operator in Cornwall usually fits most vehicles with local plates - WK/WL prefix - when they're bought).
• Sell one vehicle or re-allocate to another area and want to keep the plate.

SebastienClement

Original Poster:

1,952 posts

170 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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GTO Scott said:
Is it EYMS by any chance?
It is indeed.

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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BMR said:
I'm sure one of our local bus operators is still using the same private plate coaches they took me to school on 15 years ago which were about 20 years old then!
Ours still is and i left school in 1993, they sold a Plaxton Viewmaster last year and i was very tempted to buy it for nostalgias sake, it was only up for £3k frown

Accelebrate

5,680 posts

245 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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gtdc said:
That takes niche to a new level.
Fill your boots smile...

http://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/arcindex...

C8H18Head

446 posts

201 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Accelebrate said:
gtdc said:
That takes niche to a new level.
Fill your boots smile...

http://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/arcindex...
Many a niche interest has puzzled over swappy coach number plates...

http://www.busandcoachforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=39...

And there's some interesting discussions on these there niche forums...
http://www.busandcoachforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&...
http://www.busandcoachforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&...

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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GoneAnon said:
Coaches are very expensive so a private plate is a cheap way to make a coach look younger than it is.

Never heard of them moving plates around their fleet, though - that sounds like an extra expense the operators don't need.
Exactly this.

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

246 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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I've noticed that some of the buses Staecoach use around here (Winchester area) have old ex-London Transport plates on them - 3 figures followed by the three letters 'CLT' - i.e., 356 CLT.

Often wondered why that is! confused