Clutch gone - Fiesta 1.25 - 2009 (59)
Clutch gone - Fiesta 1.25 - 2009 (59)
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kiethton

Original Poster:

14,648 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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It looks like the clutch on my girlfriends 32.5k mile fiesta has gone: Slipping in gear getting progressively worse and it failed the 4th gear stall test....

The thing that grates is the car is only 3 years and a couple of months old and has suffered from an IMO poorly fitted clutch, more noticeable in the past 18 months - chirps on most changes and bite point is wildly different to other fiesta's. Well it was never taken in to be adjusted within its warranty period and the above, coupled with mainly town driving has meant it has gone (anything above 1/3 throttle causes slipping).

I have managed to get a few quotes, both from local garages to change it, but is it worth going to Ford to see if I can get some form of goodwill?

Quote 1:

New clutch kit inc. slave, Gearbox oil, labour and VAT - £540 (genuine ford parts)

Quote 2:

New clutch fitted only - £275 + VAT (non ford OEM spec)

Which would PH go with/is Ford likely to offer any goodwill/be competitive?

Money is very tight - moving into first (rented) place in 6 weeks!!!!

Willhook

112 posts

172 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Get a Borg&Beck clutch, about the best you can find for OEM, buy it and give it to the garage to fit would be cheapest
I would have thought.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BORG-AND-BECK-CLUTCH-KIT...

lescombes

968 posts

240 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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If your doing town work mostly..... get an auto box version next time.... Clutch... previous poster offers decent info....

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

285 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Willhook said:
Get a Borg&Beck clutch, about the best you can find for OEM, buy it and give it to the garage to fit would be cheapest
I would have thought.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BORG-AND-BECK-CLUTCH-KIT...
If you supply your own clutch I doubt the garage will be willing to provide any warranty on the job.

buggalugs

9,285 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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kiethton said:
Quote 1:

New clutch kit inc. slave, Gearbox oil, labour and VAT - £540 (genuine ford parts)

Quote 2:

New clutch fitted only - £275 + VAT (non ford OEM spec)
On a lot of Fords the slave is inside the bellhousing so you have to take the gearbox off to change it, which is a real pain and they're not that expensive so it's worth changing 'while you're in there' so to speak. Gearbox oil, will most likely come out when they remove the driveshafts so will either have to be caught in a nearby bucket and put back in or replaced with fresh.

So depends whether you're going to be keeping the car I guess? I've you've not been happy with the clutch so far it seems a shame to bang another cheapie in there but it's your money and everyone has their priorities smile

kiethton

Original Poster:

14,648 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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It's the girlfriend's car, just trying to help her out really...

The car is a keeper, likely another few years at least. I did ask the other garages re. Supplying parts/choosing clutch supplier the cheaper option said it was that or nothing and the more expensive, more trusted garage said no to fitting customer supplied parts for the warranty issue above.

Having further thoughts how easy would it be to do the job DIY? Any special tools needed? - having not had any issues with my 924 (barring a fiddly sunroof mechanism that's currently broken and I keep on putting off) I need to learn spannering some how...

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Without wishing to sound rude or criticise anyone's driving, 32k and 3 years is a very short clutch life. Does your gf ride or slip the clutch needlessly? Is she a new driver?

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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What makes you think a new car would have a poorly fitted clutch?

rehab71

3,362 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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kiethton said:
It looks like the clutch on my girlfriends 32.5k mile fiesta has gone: Slipping in gear getting progressively worse and it failed the 4th gear stall test....

The thing that grates is the car is only 3 years and a couple of months old and has suffered from an IMO poorly fitted clutch, more noticeable in the past 18 months - chirps on most changes and bite point is wildly different to other fiesta's. Well it was never taken in to be adjusted within its warranty period and the above, coupled with mainly town driving has meant it has gone (anything above 1/3 throttle causes slipping).

I have managed to get a few quotes, both from local garages to change it, but is it worth going to Ford to see if I can get some form of goodwill?

Quote 1:

New clutch kit inc. slave, Gearbox oil, labour and VAT - £540 (genuine ford parts)

Quote 2:

New clutch fitted only - £275 + VAT (non ford OEM spec)

Which would PH go with/is Ford likely to offer any goodwill/be competitive?

Money is very tight - moving into first (rented) place in 6 weeks!!!!
There is no point what-so-ever is asking for some good will, especially on a clutch. It is more likely down to driver 'abuse' then a manufactuer fault.

Eggman

1,253 posts

241 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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BFG TERRANO said:
What makes you think a new car would have a poorly fitted clutch?
More to the point, how would you go about fitting a clutch poorly?

Big News

1,937 posts

209 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Are you sure she isn't just st at driving?

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Big News said:
Are you sure she isn't just st at driving?
I didn't want to go in quite that hard..... But yeah, I thought that.

ollie854

423 posts

192 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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BFG TERRANO said:
I didn't want to go in quite that hard..... But yeah, I thought that.
I did think that too.

Astra Dan

1,914 posts

214 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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I like to squeeze my wife's thigh to hint that she should take her foot off the clutch pedal. Well, it's a pretty good excuse....
That, and it'll be me that has to get under the car and fix it. Deffo a plus point of late '80s/ early '90s Vauxhalls!

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Astra Dan said:
I like to squeeze my wife's thigh to hint that she should take her foot off the clutch pedal. Well, it's a pretty good excuse....
That, and it'll be me that has to get under the car and fix it. Deffo a plus point of late '80s/ early '90s Vauxhalls!
try a 4x4 and transfer box! needless to say she can wreck her own clutch! somehow though, its done 10 years and 90,000

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

176 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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It's probably just the way she drives.
It is entirely possible that a clutch could last just 32k if it is constantly on the biting point during town work.
A decent driver should have a clutch last 90-100k with ease.

Astra Dan

1,914 posts

214 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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I've personally not covered more than about 40k in a car so I can't gauge. I did rip the middle out of the Mk4's clutch at 120k, but it had been Granny ridden from new to 85k.
I put a new clutch in the 1.3 Mk2 at about 114k and the wife had utterly destroyed it by 177k. It was getting stiff, and on removal it was blue, cracked and turning to dust! Still worked though. smile Can be changed in under an hour, too. smile

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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An ex of mine used to sit with her left foot on the clutch pedal. Not actually doing anythingother than light pressure, but still on it nonetheless. Used to drive me insane, ratehr than squeeze her thigh I offered to punch her in the tits to see if I could get a Newtons Cradle effect going

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

176 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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The resting on the clutch pedal will cause premature wear to the release bearing.

big_boz

1,685 posts

237 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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The Phrase... "For the 5 millionth time, stop riding the fking Clutch" normally works with the Wife.