Car hobby man told to clean up his act -
Discussion
Come on guys, own up -
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/10085555...car_hobbyman_told_to_clean_up/
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/10085555...car_hobbyman_told_to_clean_up/
illmonkey said:
Its HIS driveway surely?
Depends.If there are local bylaws about that sort of thing he's done for.
In the states in some areas you can't park a car on your driveway that doesn't go.
You can't work on them on the driveway, some don't even let you wash them.
I believe some areas of Germany are similar.
Crafty_ said:
Depends.
If there are local bylaws about that sort of thing he's done for.
In the states in some areas you can't park a car on your driveway that doesn't go.
You can't work on them on the driveway, some don't even let you wash them.
I believe some areas of Germany are similar.
There are certain places in the US, specifically gated communities, that won't let you hang your washing out to dry in your own garden. It must be done in dryers or hung up inside the house. If there are local bylaws about that sort of thing he's done for.
In the states in some areas you can't park a car on your driveway that doesn't go.
You can't work on them on the driveway, some don't even let you wash them.
I believe some areas of Germany are similar.
I agree there must be rules to stop people doing whatever they like but sometimes they can go too far imo, it's the nosey busy bodies who are too blame for most of them.
These sort of stories really piss me off, this is nothing more than pathetic neighbours who clearly have nothing more interesting in their own lives to deal with.
No doubt the neighbours are claiming that the value of their houses which they aren't trying to sell are effected or that their friends have judged them based on the neighbours "mess"
No doubt the neighbours are claiming that the value of their houses which they aren't trying to sell are effected or that their friends have judged them based on the neighbours "mess"
Big Fat Fatty said:
There are certain places in the US, specifically gated communities, that won't let you hang your washing out to dry in your own garden. It must be done in dryers or hung up inside the house.
It's not necessarily gated communities, it's where the area is under jurisdiction of a Homeowner's Association (HOA). When buying a house in those areas you agree to follow their rules, I think you actually need to sign a contract.Apparently the laundry rules are because hanging washing out is a lower class activity, for people who can't afford a dryer, and those areas can't possibly have poor people living in them!
Some HOA's won't let you park any vehicle other than a car in front of the house, if you have a truck/van it needs to go in a garage or behind a fence. Most don't allow fencing forward of the building line, paint must be an approved colour.
It's all enforced by residents of the sort that are on parish councils here (except in an HOA they have a lot of power).
edit: Here's some detail on the offence - I expect he could have fought it with some willpower:
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/scripts/news_art...
Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 4th December 11:05
I'm guessing this must have been his garden in 2009 (the date stamp on the Google streetview image).
ETA: Streetview link
ETA: Streetview link
Edited by TonyRPH on Tuesday 4th December 11:46
Magistrates found him guilty of ingoring notices requiring him to remove all waste, stored materials, vehicle repair equipment and unlicensed cars from the front of his home in Whitewell Road.
What legal powers exist to enforce this? Since when do you have to have a car licensed to keep it on your drive? So what is a SORN for then? What is the tipping point re multiple car owneship and self maintennace passed, and when you've commited an 'offence' I'd tell them to stuff their fine, and not pay it. As for the local councellor involved, words fail me. Why don't she do something useful, and sort out the pots holes on the roads instead. They're more of a issue.
What legal powers exist to enforce this? Since when do you have to have a car licensed to keep it on your drive? So what is a SORN for then? What is the tipping point re multiple car owneship and self maintennace passed, and when you've commited an 'offence' I'd tell them to stuff their fine, and not pay it. As for the local councellor involved, words fail me. Why don't she do something useful, and sort out the pots holes on the roads instead. They're more of a issue.
It will be discussed on the Jeremy vine show (after 1pm I think).
He does seem to have stored quite a lot at his house, the pics dont seem to show much at all.
I dont think I could live in the states after reading some of those restrictions, In the past I had a couple of old batteries and an imobile car on my drive. the batteries managed to move themselves one evening and I eventually fixed the car so I do have some sympathy with mr Buckel.
He does seem to have stored quite a lot at his house, the pics dont seem to show much at all.
I dont think I could live in the states after reading some of those restrictions, In the past I had a couple of old batteries and an imobile car on my drive. the batteries managed to move themselves one evening and I eventually fixed the car so I do have some sympathy with mr Buckel.
Big Fat Fatty said:
There are certain places in the US, specifically gated communities, that won't let you hang your washing out to dry in your own garden. It must be done in dryers or hung up inside the house.
My inlaws used to live in a new build house in Slough and that had a clause in the contract that stated that washing lines were prohibited.Gareth79 said:
Some HOA's won't let you park any vehicle other than a car in front of the house, if you have a truck/van it needs to go in a garage or behind a fence.
I think thats the case in the UK too. Certainly in the last few houses I've lived in the deeds have clauses which state commercial vehicles cannot be parked on the driveway. A lot of people ignore it, but on small new build estates where everyone is packed in, it does make the place untidy with dirty great white vans parked all over the shop.re: The original story, I bet that picture doesn't do it justice. There has to be more too it than a couple of rusty cars on a driveway. The article suggests thre was other debris as well.
That's nothing. In the terrace I live in there's a houshold of two that have 4, yes 4 volvo's of various vintage and they don't park them on their driveway (they don't have one) just litter them about the place.
They're more of an eyesore than the 20 year partially built building at the end of the lane. I turn a blind eye to it as long as one isn't blocking access to my garage, but it does get right on my tits.
They're more of an eyesore than the 20 year partially built building at the end of the lane. I turn a blind eye to it as long as one isn't blocking access to my garage, but it does get right on my tits.
Gareth79 said:
It's not necessarily gated communities, it's where the area is under jurisdiction of a Homeowner's Association (HOA). When buying a house in those areas you agree to follow their rules, I think you actually need to sign a contract.
Apparently the laundry rules are because hanging washing out is a lower class activity, for people who can't afford a dryer, and those areas can't possibly have poor people living in them!
Some HOA's won't let you park any vehicle other than a car in front of the house, if you have a truck/van it needs to go in a garage or behind a fence. Most don't allow fencing forward of the building line, paint must be an approved colour.
It's all enforced by residents of the sort that are on parish councils here (except in an HOA they have a lot of power).
edit: Here's some detail on the offence - I expect he could have fought it with some willpower:
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/scripts/news_art...
I don't know if its true, but I read of a story from the US where a guy had a non operable car in his back yard, hidden from sight except when a neighbour looked out of a certain window. Neighbour complained and he had to get rid of the car. After a bit of reading he discovered that trailers were allowed, he then invited a few of his buddies to park their trailers in his yard. Nothing the neighbour could do, so instead of 1 old car he had to look at several fully enclosed trailers Apparently the laundry rules are because hanging washing out is a lower class activity, for people who can't afford a dryer, and those areas can't possibly have poor people living in them!
Some HOA's won't let you park any vehicle other than a car in front of the house, if you have a truck/van it needs to go in a garage or behind a fence. Most don't allow fencing forward of the building line, paint must be an approved colour.
It's all enforced by residents of the sort that are on parish councils here (except in an HOA they have a lot of power).
edit: Here's some detail on the offence - I expect he could have fought it with some willpower:
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/scripts/news_art...
Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 4th December 11:05
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