Ford MX5
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CrispyMK

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200 posts

170 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I don't think this has been asked before, sorry if it has. I was thinking about this today after I saw a Mazda 121

Why didn't Ford ever make an 'MX5'? Surely they could have had them made by Mazda and stuck their badge on it. With the MX5 being such a success you would have thought that Ford would want a piece of the action, the MX5 seemed to come out around the time when Mazda where selling what looked like Fords but with their own badge on them.

Anyone got any ideas?

wildcat45

8,160 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I guess it was an all Mazda product - no parts bin bits - so perhaps they wanted to keep it to their own brand and Eunos.

Has Ford ever made a dedicated roadster? Maybe - and I am talking Ford Europe here - it just didn't fit in with what Ford were about back in 1990.

J4CKO

46,879 posts

230 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Why would Mazda let them have the good stuff ?

MrFrodo

21,549 posts

272 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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...why didn't anyone else?

The Z3 was too expensive to be a direct competitor, the Barchetta was front-wheel drive, the MGF was mid-engined. The MX-5 stands out partly by default.

I say this as a fan of the MX-5, but part of their cult status comes by default; they are pretty much the only small, affordable, front-engined rear-wheel drive roadsters around.

Alfa numeric

3,169 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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While Mazda were developing the MX-5, Ford were developing the Mercury Capri, which was sold as a Ford in some countries.



I've never seen one here but have seem then in the US and Australia.

shoehorn

686 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Alfa numeric said:
While Mazda were developing the MX-5, Ford were developing the Mercury Capri, which was sold as a Ford in some countries.



I've never seen one here but have seem then in the US and Australia.
Yes and that has all the charm and allure of a chin full of acne.

CrispyMK

Original Poster:

200 posts

170 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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MrFrodo said:
...why didn't anyone else?

The Z3 was too expensive to be a direct competitor, the Barchetta was front-wheel drive, the MGF was mid-engined. The MX-5 stands out partly by default.

I say this as a fan of the MX-5, but part of their cult status comes by default; they are pretty much the only small, affordable, front-engined rear-wheel drive roadsters around.
But no one else was sharing platforms with Mazda in the way that Ford were (were they?). It just seems odd that Ford didn't ever put a blue oval on an MX5 and call it their own. I doubt we'll ever know, just something that struck me today.

I wonder how a Ford MX5 would have sold compared to the Mazda?

JonnyFive

29,903 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Anything Ford had to do with Mazda, goes wrong.

Anything Ford didn't get involved in, MX5.. Is a brilliant car.

See a pattern here?

shoehorn

686 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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JonnyFive said:
Anything Ford had to do with Mazda, goes wrong.

Anything Ford didn't get involved in, MX5.. Is a brilliant car.

See a pattern here?
Not true,my Ranger was even after years of abuse,Bombproof.

JonnyFive

29,903 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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shoehorn said:
Not true,my Ranger was even after years of abuse,Bombproof.
Ford Ranger is a Mazda.

I get Ford customers ringing me for parts because Ford can't get them.

Alpaca

311 posts

202 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Alfa numeric said:
While Mazda were developing the MX-5, Ford were developing the Mercury Capri, which was sold as a Ford in some countries.



I've never seen one here but have seem then in the US and Australia.
Ironically it was based on the Mazda 323.

shoehorn

686 posts

173 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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JonnyFive said:
Ford Ranger is a Mazda.

I get Ford customers ringing me for parts because Ford can't get them.
Yes that was my point.

stemll

5,592 posts

230 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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JonnyFive said:
Anything Ford had to do with Mazda, goes wrong.

Anything Ford didn't get involved in, MX5.. Is a brilliant car.

See a pattern here?
Mrs Stemll's Mazda 5 is a CMax, the Mazda3 is based on a Focus and the Mazda6 is based on a Mondeo. All perfectly good cars.

On the other hand, pre-Ford they had the MPV, 323 and 626. Not so good cars.

JonnyFive

29,903 posts

219 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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stemll said:
JonnyFive said:
Anything Ford had to do with Mazda, goes wrong.

Anything Ford didn't get involved in, MX5.. Is a brilliant car.

See a pattern here?
Mrs Stemll's Mazda 5 is a CMax, the Mazda3 is based on a Focus and the Mazda6 is based on a Mondeo. All perfectly good cars.

On the other hand, pre-Ford they had the MPV, 323 and 626. Not so good cars.
Focus was designed by Mazda, Ford took it for themselves. Mazda then designed the 3 instead.

323/626 are dead reliable, MPV is reliable too.. Not much of a looker though.

Grenoble

59,619 posts

185 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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JonnyFive said:
Anything Ford had to do with Mazda, goes wrong.

Anything Ford didn't get involved in, MX5.. Is a brilliant car.

See a pattern here?
Isn't the 2.0 in the Mk3 a ford unit?

Condi

20,388 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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323/626/Laser are great cars! Had 2 while abroad, both with more than 200K miles on the clock, and both were great.

stedale

1,125 posts

295 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Grenoble said:
Isn't the 2.0 in the Mk3 a ford unit?
No it's mazda borrowed by ford and branded duratec. One wonders if ford do anything for themselves?

Grenoble

59,619 posts

185 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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stedale said:
No it's mazda borrowed by ford and branded duratec. One wonders if ford do anything for themselves?
Yikes, you are right... I never knew that... Learn something new every day. Great engine, either way...

wildcat45

8,160 posts

219 months

Friday 7th December 2012
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I belive my CX-7 is an evolutionary orphan. Despite having similar looks to a Kuga, I am told it is not related to any other non-Mazda car apart from a bit of Ford Focus suspension.

Anyone know more. I'd be interested to know.

JonnyFive

29,903 posts

219 months

Friday 7th December 2012
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wildcat45 said:
I belive my CX-7 is an evolutionary orphan. Despite having similar looks to a Kuga, I am told it is not related to any other non-Mazda car apart from a bit of Ford Focus suspension.

Anyone know more. I'd be interested to know.
It is abit inbred.. Mazda 3/6 MPS engine, Mazda5 rear suspension and Mazda MPV (Asia) front suspension. Not sure about Platform though.

It's not related to the CX5 though, thats a completely new chassis and engine.