Executive models, making the luxury stuff obsolete in UK ?
Executive models, making the luxury stuff obsolete in UK ?
Author
Discussion

firemanSimon

Original Poster:

656 posts

168 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
The A8 we have is now 5 years old. It’s the wife’s daily driver and it’s time to replace it. Was out with her today looking at A8, A7, and A6. MB E-class, S-class. BMW 7 series, 5 series. It dawned on me how good and accomplished the executives models are how they make the luxury barges seem so overpriced. The new Audi A6 is more than enough car for us. As would the 5 series BMW, can’t think why you would pat the extra for a 7 series other than willy waving rights?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
Indeed. 5-series and E-class have had their bigger brothers outgunned in UK for more than a decade.

See also: (a) Death of Maybach. (b) Death of MacMerc SLR. (c) Death of VW Phaeton.

Meanwhile the "more money than sense" brigade have been queueing up to throw money at Q7, X6, Cayenne and all manner of over-weight, over-priced nonsense.

Arthur Daley

269 posts

188 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
Take a look at the skoda superb.. fantastic value.

Baryonyx

18,287 posts

189 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
The E Class and the 5 series of today are nearly as big as the older luxury cars were. They have more than enough space, if not the refinement, the toys and the pleasure derived from knowing you have the best in the range. And we are in recession Britain!

Dusty964

7,373 posts

220 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
So, you drive an A8, and have now decided that an A6 or a bmw 5 is sufficient, then talk about Willy waving. Why didn't you just buy the a6 last time around?

Sump

5,512 posts

197 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
Not in my area.
GS isn't a touch on the LS.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

212 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
Having been driven in the back of a 760iL, I can see why they cost what they do. Loved it.

retrorider

1,339 posts

231 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
Arthur Daley said:
Take a look at the skoda superb.. fantastic value.
Nice car but only looks good in estate form imho...

firemanSimon

Original Poster:

656 posts

168 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
Dusty964 said:
So, you drive an A8, and have now decided that an A6 or a bmw 5 is sufficient, then talk about Willy waving. Why didn't you just buy the a6 last time around?
It was a bought off my father when we moved back to uk. I have only had it less than a year.

jamoor

14,506 posts

245 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
A single Luxury car hasn't been mentioned in this thread FYI.

Luxury = bentley, Rolls Royce

Big News

1,937 posts

209 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
jamoor said:
A single Luxury car hasn't been mentioned in this thread FYI.

Luxury = bentley, Rolls Royce
According to standard UK car classes, you're incorrect - the 7, S-Class, A8 are 'Luxury Cars'.

jamoor

14,506 posts

245 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
quotequote all
Big News said:
According to standard UK car classes, you're incorrect - the 7, S-Class, A8 are 'Luxury Cars'.
They are just top of the range cars from premium manufacturers, doesn't make them luxury, heck BMW refer to themselves as premium manufacturers.

BMW3s6

2,882 posts

228 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
quotequote all
I love the 7 series I only did not buy one because I thought the length might have got annoying as a Dailey driver

BlueMR2

9,466 posts

232 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
quotequote all
Ozzie Osmond said:
See alsofrownc) Death of VW Phaeton.
You realise these are still for sale right?

caraddict

1,092 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
quotequote all
jamoor said:
Big News said:
According to standard UK car classes, you're incorrect - the 7, S-Class, A8 are 'Luxury Cars'.
They are just top of the range cars from premium manufacturers, doesn't make them luxury, heck BMW refer to themselves as premium manufacturers.
Luxury and premium does not neccessarily mean the same thing.

MJK 24

5,678 posts

266 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
quotequote all
BlueMR2 said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
See alsofrownc) Death of VW Phaeton.
You realise these are still for sale right?
And it outsells the A8, 7 series, XJ, LS and S Class in the fastest growing market for these cars in the world by a MASSIVE margin, China.

phib

4,520 posts

289 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
quotequote all
Have had my 7 for 3 years before that had a 5 for 3 months horriid little thing, noisy uncomfortable, the 7 is a leap on from the 5 if you spend 4/5 hours in it a day.

Having said that if I didn't do the miles I wouldn't have a 7 it would be back to a 911

Can't see me every buying a 5 there is just no comparison, would have the Bentley but clients would go nuts !!

Phib

Dusty964

7,373 posts

220 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
quotequote all
phib said:
Have had my 7 for 3 years before that had a 5 for 3 months horriid little thing, noisy uncomfortable, the 7 is a leap on from the 5 if you spend 4/5 hours in it a day.

Having said that if I didn't do the miles I wouldn't have a 7 it would be back to a 911

Can't see me every buying a 5 there is just no comparison, would have the Bentley but clients would go nuts !!

Phib
Couldn't agree more- mine is a 2002 745li, and I adore it. By far the most comfortable thing I have ever driven, purchased for the practicality of being able to get 2 adults and a child in the back in comfort, and if I'm doing a lot of miles, I want to be comfy.

A900ss

3,314 posts

182 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
quotequote all
Baryonyx said:
The E Class and the 5 series of today are nearly as big as the older luxury cars were. They have more than enough space, if not the refinement, the toys and the pleasure derived from knowing you have the best in the range. And we are in recession Britain!
I have a new model 5 series and agree that externally it is a large car, similar to older luxury cars. However, once inside they are large but certainly not huge.

My 5 series has massive front seats, so much so that there is about the same rear legroom as my old Subaru Legacy.

Yes the Exec cars are large but with the refinement they now have, this does eat up interior space so I can see the point of a luxury car if you want to be say in the back in a luxurious manor

Edited by A900ss on Sunday 9th December 13:35

Raize

1,476 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
quotequote all
A900ss said:
Yes the Exec cars are large but with the refinement they now have, this does eat up interior space so I can see the point of a luxury car if you want to be say in the back in a luxurious manor
Okay, executive cars are one thing, but being chaffeur driven around inside your luxurious manor is taking it too far.