What are the disadvantages of winter tyres?
What are the disadvantages of winter tyres?
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white_goodman

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4,524 posts

221 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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I have read countless articles in the last couple of years extolling the virtues of winter tyres i.e. a Ferrari 458 on winter tyres will cope better with snow than a Range Rover on summer tyres blah, blah, blah!

So why are they not fitted as standard? Do some markets, such as Canada where there is snow for 6 months of the year have them fitted as standard? Why change back to normal tyres in the summer?

I'm guessing that winter tyres don't grip as well in warmer weather (lower contact area?) and stopping distances may be slightly longer but would you really notice this on the road. Are they detrimental to fuel consumption? To be fair I've never used them but my Subaru seems to cope fine with snow on summer tyres. So if winter tyres are so great, why not fit them as standard and at what point do winter tyres become better than normal tyres and vice versa?

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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In the Winter, none that I see.

FreiWild

405 posts

186 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Wear faster in the summer because of the softer compound, but work better under 7°C.

lexusboy

1,101 posts

173 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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I think in Germany it's the law to fit them

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

285 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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FreiWild said:
Wear faster in the summer because of the softer compound, but work better under 7°C.
This, although the wear isn't too bad.

FreiWild

405 posts

186 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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lexusboy said:
I think in Germany it's the law to fit them
Yup, and if you crash or obstruct the road with your car and have summers on you will be fined accordingly.

kambites

71,529 posts

251 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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In my experience, to varying degrees depending on the tyre in question and what you're comparing it to: The "jagged" tread pattern that's so good at generating grip on snow creates more road nose and drag; they're usually a softer compound so they wear faster and give less precise turn-in and less steering feel; and they generate marginally less grip in warm dry weather.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Life's a compromise.

Winter tyres are only good for half the year. So much more cost and half the convenience.

Poor compromise!

I buy good tyres - they may be quite costly but they work all year round.

Excellent compromise!

DonkeyApple

70,125 posts

199 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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They tend to give pub bores and nerds terminal priapism about this time of year.

Magic919

14,529 posts

231 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Winter tyres don't grip well in warmer temps. I find them quite dangerous on my car. That's the compound, rather than the size of the tyres.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

285 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Life's a compromise.

Winter tyres are only good for half the year. So much more cost and half the convenience.

Poor compromise!

I buy good tyres - they may be quite costly but they work all year round.

Excellent compromise!
Never quite understood that argument. If you do run winter, and summers, you don't run either for the year, so use less, last longer, so to speak.

Your all season tyres are a compromise.

sparkyhx

4,200 posts

234 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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FreiWild said:
lexusboy said:
I think in Germany it's the law to fit them
Yup, and if you crash or obstruct the road with your car and have summers on you will be fined accordingly.
yeh but in Germany you get fined for cutting your lawn on a sunday, and a Pillow is classed as a weapon

Willeh85

760 posts

173 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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I found this video quite quick and informative http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLMwF5WR-us and there are other more in depth comparisons and reviews if you search for them.

I don't think we'll see it as a legal requirement like Germany and other countries because we don't have snow and ice for the duration/the most part of winter, and when we do its for perhaps 10 days of the year for most parts of the UK

RDMcG

20,871 posts

237 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Winter tires are not high speed performance tires, and as said, have a different compound designed for low temperatures. They make a huge difference. I have had them of FWD,RWD,AWD and 4x4 vehicles If you live in a snowy area, the all seasons are much less grippy. I now use only summer and winter tires on the cars that are used all year. Even have tiny little winters for the Smart ForTwo.

They are mounted on rims, so no problem with the changeover.

nottyash

4,671 posts

225 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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lexusboy said:
I think in Germany it's the law to fit them
Yes but My Grandad fought in the war to stop stupid laws like that coming in.
Thanks Grandad.

7mike

3,214 posts

223 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
They tend to give pub bores and nerds terminal priapism about this time of year.
I had to look that up. boxedin Ouch!!

Bill

58,716 posts

285 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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I think there are one or two other threads about winter tyres, so can we keep it to that please.
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