ford warranty and servicing, engine blown
ford warranty and servicing, engine blown
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martinnitram

Original Poster:

244 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Ive just had an engine failure on my 8.5k mile 14 month old transit van, van was due its first service in november but ive not had chance to get it in yet.
The service schedule is every 20k or 12 months
Reason for post is what the mechanic said off the cuff regarding ford often trying not to honour the warranty on vans not serviced at correct intervals.
Anyone had any experience with ford with this issue, surely if they dont honour a warranty on something like this its a 'product not fit for its intended purpose' matter ?
Nothing has been said yet but just preparing myself for a hearty row with the service dept.

Any usefull input appreciated

Cheers Mart

cossy400

3,465 posts

214 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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My 2p, 3 months is a hell of a time not to be able to get it booked in and serviced.

But its still only 14 months old.

Expect a fight, but im sure someone abit more knowledgable on such matters will be along shortly


iva cosworth

44,044 posts

193 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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The product ended being fit for purpose when the engine oil ran out......possibly.

I can't see this going well for you with Ford warranty.

bitchstewie

68,037 posts

240 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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What sort of failure? Bit snapped due to a defect or seized up because of lack of oil?

sparkyhx

4,200 posts

234 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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bhstewie said:
What sort of failure? Bit snapped due to a defect or seized up because of lack of oil?
what he said, i think it would depend on the type/cause of failure

oil gone due to not checking - then I think you will have to suck it

if mechanical failure lead to sudden loss of oil or engine mechanical fault then they may try it on, stick to your guns .

Edited by sparkyhx on Sunday 13th January 18:18

GoneAnon

1,703 posts

182 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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If someone makes and sells something, and tells the buyer that it will need a service at a given period/mileage, but the buyer ignores that and the item breaks, I'd say all bets are off re warranty.

If Ford do anything for you it will be down to goodwill, so you need to ask nicely and not demand, and you should then be grateful for any contribution they offer.

martinnitram

Original Poster:

244 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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I dont know why it failed, Just waiting for fords verdict, engine oil always checked and had been running well since new, simply just went pop.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

215 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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I'd also not be surprised if they got out of this. I know it's stating the obvious, etc but you should have got it in for service on time frown

martinnitram

Original Poster:

244 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Im No mechanic, but sounds internal, piston, conrod, very very loud banging from middle of engine. Properly gone.

crossy67

1,570 posts

209 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Injector gone. Diesel knock. Possibility.

Sir Bagalot

7,106 posts

211 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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They only allow you to go 1 month/1,000 miles over. Quite low mileage so really no excuse not to book in.

I don't see this going well at all.

martinnitram

Original Poster:

244 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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sparkyhx said:
bhstewie said:
What sort of failure? Bit snapped due to a defect or seized up because of lack of oil?
what he said, i think it would depend on the type/cause of failure

oil gone due to not checking - then I think you will have to suck it

if mechanical failure lead to sudden loss of oil or engine mechanical fault then they may try it on, stick to your guns .

Edited by sparkyhx on Sunday 13th January 18:18
Certainly not due to not checking the oil, ive just not had it in for its service, no argument there, but my argument is going to be that these engines can go 20k between service, this ones done 8.5k, surely they done just pack up because service is 2 month late.

lbc

3,338 posts

247 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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martinnitram said:
these engines can go 20k between service, this ones done 8.5k, surely they done just pack up because service is 2 month late.
Low mileage can mean more wear and tear due to only being used for short journeys.
A higher mileage vehicle would be less stressed if used on motorway type journeys.

As you have broken the terms of the warranty you may struggle to get any help from the manufacturer.

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

186 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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All you do when you miss an interval or are late, is take a gamble with this exact scenario. Most times you'll win. Now and again you won't.

valiant

14,265 posts

190 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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It will be what comes first whether that's 20k or 12 months. The problem for you is that you've given them some major wriggle room in getting out of a very expensive repair.

bitchstewie

68,037 posts

240 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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martinnitram said:
Certainly not due to not checking the oil, ive just not had it in for its service, no argument there, but my argument is going to be that these engines can go 20k between service, this ones done 8.5k, surely they done just pack up because service is 2 month late.
I suspect a lot of it will come down to goodwill. I've no idea what the service schedule for your van is, but I'd be amazed if the first service included anything more than an oil change and some basic visual checks - so it comes down to exactly what the nature of the failure is and what Ford say has caused it.

I'm sure you'll get a mixture of opinions on whether to be contrite and humble or to shout and scream smile

Meths

2,107 posts

166 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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lbc said:
Modern diesels do not like short journeys, and petrol would be a better choice.
A petrol van?

cossy400

3,465 posts

214 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Meths said:
lbc said:
Modern diesels do not like short journeys, and petrol would be a better choice.
A petrol van?
Did they not stop making them in the 80s?

Ekona

1,684 posts

232 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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You can buy a V6 twin-turbo Transit.




If you live in the US frown

rehab71

3,362 posts

220 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Not serviced, no warranty!

Simple as that really.