Importing a car from Japan - Complete ball ache?
Importing a car from Japan - Complete ball ache?
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Dr Murdoch

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3,955 posts

165 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Afternoon

I'm thinking about importing a car (to the UK) through the tradecarview website.

Has anyone on here imported a car before? Is it easy? What are the pit falls?

Thanks

Murdoch


Ved

3,949 posts

205 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I'd save yourself the hassle and get someone to do it for you. Torque GT has access to all auctions and has a very good reputation. You'll get exactly what you want and considering the costs and time involved you'll probably end up evens anyway.

DanielSan

20,036 posts

197 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Ved said:
I'd save yourself the hassle and get someone to do it for you. Torque GT has access to all auctions and has a very good reputation. You'll get exactly what you want and considering the costs and time involved you'll probably end up evens anyway.
Exactly that really, and they'll sort all the SVA and registration stuff for you.

FD3Si

857 posts

174 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Ditto, I went through Jurgen at JM Imports smile

Risotto

3,933 posts

242 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I haven't brought anything over in the last few years but unless the registration process in the UK has changed drastically, anyone with an ounce of common sense and some basic mechanical skills should have no problem. Why pay a middle man to do some paperwork and a spot of DIY? I'm not sure TCV is the best place to go - it's mainly dealer stock that has been marked up accordingly. Buying direct from an auction would be cheaper.

HOWEVER - having said all that, I'd still advise you to buy a car already in the UK - simply because the exchange rate has been awful for the last few years and is likely to stay that way for a while. It used to be worth it, but it can easily become pointless if you don't pay the right price for the car. Finding a bargain with the current exchange rates is very difficult.

If you want something that simply can't be found in the UK and find yourself forced to buy from Japan, don't be put off by the fact that you won't have seen the car. Each car will be examined and graded prior to the auction by someone who grades cars for a living and who has nothing to gain by being economical with the truth. Everyone I've dealt with has been very honest and very helpful.

Don't forget though, the price you pay for the car in Japan bears no relation to the amount you'll have shelled out by the time it's registered in this country. On top of the purchase price, you've got handling, shipping, marine insurance, import duty (10%), VAT (20% on the price of the car + the import duty), customs charge, delivery from the port, parts, registration costs, MOT, plates, road tax.

Lastly, I'd advise you to carefully look into the UK registration process. Last time I registered an import, it involved doing a few jobs on the car, hiring a model report and getting an esva test. The process was simpler with older cars but you need to do some research - importing a car for which there was no model report used to mean it was very difficult to get the car on the road without huge expense.


Edited by Risotto on Monday 14th January 13:10

Loplop

2,012 posts

215 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Risotto said:
HOWEVER - having said all that, I'd still advise you to buy a car already in the UK - simply because the exchange rate has been awful for the last few years and is likely to stay that way for a while. It used to be worth it, but as you can see from the costs below, it can easily become pointless if you don't pay the right price for the car. Finding a bargain with the current exchange rates is very difficult.
Not everyone wants a run of the mill Skyline GT-R or Scooby. When you're buying from abroad there are far more domestic market options, which is why so many importers offer you a 'spec what you like' service so you can get the exact car you want.

D_G

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239 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Things have changed a lot from Risotto's post, I'm still involved in this stuff even though the exchange rate is still poor but improving, can you let me know the make / model and year of what you are considering and I can advise better.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

295 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Loplop said:
Not everyone wants a run of the mill Skyline GT-R or Scooby. When you're buying from abroad there are far more domestic market options, which is why so many importers offer you a 'spec what you like' service so you can get the exact car you want.
I'm not even remotely tempted by a GTR or a scooby, but a 180SX based Sileighty rep with an SR20 would be very tempting. Or even a stock S13 Silvia Ks.

Loplop

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215 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Captain Muppet said:
Loplop said:
Not everyone wants a run of the mill Skyline GT-R or Scooby. When you're buying from abroad there are far more domestic market options, which is why so many importers offer you a 'spec what you like' service so you can get the exact car you want.
I'm not even remotely tempted by a GTR or a scooby, but a 180SX based Sileighty rep with an SR20 would be very tempting. Or even a stock S13 Silvia Ks.
Exactly! I'd rather the Sileighty than a Onevia aswell! EG6 or EK4 Civic SiR for me!

Dr Murdoch

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Monday 14th January 2013
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Risotto said:
Don't forget though, the price you pay for the car in Japan bears no relation to the amount you'll have shelled out by the time it's registered in this country. On top of the purchase price, you've got handling, shipping, marine insurance, import duty (10%), VAT (20% on the price of the car + the import duty), customs charge, delivery from the port, parts, registration costs, MOT, plates, road tax.

Lastly, I'd advise you to carefully look into the UK registration process. Last time I registered an import, it involved doing a few jobs on the car, hiring a model report and getting an esva test. The process was simpler with older cars but you need to do some research - importing a car for which there was no model report used to mean it was very difficult to get the car on the road without huge expense.


Edited by Risotto on Monday 14th January 13:10
This was what I was worried about!

Dr Murdoch

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D_G said:
Things have changed a lot from Risotto's post, I'm still involved in this stuff even though the exchange rate is still poor but improving, can you let me know the make / model and year of what you are considering and I can advise better.
Right don't laugh, I'm after a Nissan Cube (who's sniggering at the back?!), no older than 2003 but it must be the 7 seater version (known as either the Cube3 or the Cubic). Less than 70,000 miles on the clock would be nice.

Colour not fussed, but would prefer to avoid red as it really whould look like a Postman Pat replica.

james_gt3rs

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221 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Dr Murdoch said:
Right don't laugh, I'm after a Nissan Cube (who's sniggering at the back?!), no older than 2003 but it must be the 7 seater version (known as either the Cube3 or the Cubic). Less than 70,000 miles on the clock would be nice.

Colour not fussed, but would prefer to avoid red as it really whould look like a Postman Pat replica.
hehe From the thread title I was expecting 800bhp Skylines!

itz_baseline

834 posts

251 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Autotrader? There's a few on there for £4k. You can touch and feel what you are going to buy first. They are rare but defo available and saves all the hasstle for the sake of maybe saying a couple of hundred pounds....

Bear Phils

891 posts

166 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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james_gt3rs said:
hehe From the thread title I was expecting 800bhp Skylines!
Have you looked at the classified's recently? tongue out

No need to get one from japan.

Dr Murdoch

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Monday 14th January 2013
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itz_baseline said:
Autotrader? There's a few on there for £4k. You can touch and feel what you are going to buy first. They are rare but defo available and saves all the hasstle for the sake of maybe saying a couple of hundred pounds....
Indeed, trouble is I want to avoid paying 4k. I just missed the boat on one for 2.5k which seemed pretty good, so I'm hoping to pay closer to 3k than 4k. I'm sure one will come up, but I'm kinda under pressure to sort something before April (this is when Murdoch the 3rd should be making his/her first appearance)



Dr Murdoch

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Bear Phils said:
Have you looked at the classified's recently? tongue out

No need to get one from japan.
First place I looked, just need to get one where the condition matches the price.

Dr Murdoch

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Monday 14th January 2013
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Oh I haven't decided to import one, I'm just testing the water.

If I could get one imported and fully road legal for up to 2.5k then it probably would be worth the hassle. Anything over and I agree with most comments, it would indeed make more sense to go through PH or AutoTrader etc etc

TinyCappo

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183 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Im thinking of this process but for an Autozam AZ1 or the Mazdaspeed version of it.





getting it through the tests here may be an issue though


Bear Phils

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Monday 14th January 2013
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Dr Murdoch said:
First place I looked, just need to get one where the condition matches the price.
I was talking about monster skylines, didn't think that many cubes had made it over.

Ah, condition matching price, such a rarity these days...

nottyash

4,671 posts

225 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I used mashamoto back in 2008 a few times, no problems but yen was low, and imports were in demand. In 2010 I paid for a b4 rsk and lost most of my money. Matthew Martin owned the company and disappeared just before I could get hold of him. My advice, don't risk it.