Why is it a "privilege" to drive
Why is it a "privilege" to drive
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HertsBiker

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6,443 posts

301 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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If it were free, and clean, and stress free, and there were no hold ups or accidents... Then maybe it could be called a privilege. However like the rest of you, I have passed a car test, and my bike test, pay tax on my salary in order to be wallet-raped at the pumps in order to go to work. Then my fuel tax is given to work shy people and the army so they can kill foreigners in wars we don't want. Then I pay insurance, that is taxed, servicing that's taxed, am not permitted to use any degree of performance... And despite paying through the nose, and having to jump through hoops to stay legal, some people call it a "privilege ". Being a royal is privileged. This isn't. We earnt this, don't let them tell you it is a privileged. It's your right as a fully paid up member of car club UK. Stop being fooled, it is our right once we pass our tests. It isn't something we have been given for free. And we subsidise public transport, even when there is often not public transport available for us. And this is a privileged? Get real. We're being given taken for fools here.

interloper

2,747 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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I think you misunderstand the term Privilege.

You have basic rights, in this country a right to a free education, basic health care etc. You don't have a right to a car or driving, these need to be bought or earned. So I would class that as a privilege?

HiHoSilverSLK

354 posts

194 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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"It is our right, once we pass our test"

Sorry to be argumentative and disagree but I must point out that driving is done under licence, which is why you have a driving licence, which can be withdrawn if you are naughty. It isn't a right at all and never has been. We have certain inalienable rights which cannot be withdrawn and driving isn't one of them.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

264 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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What a load of old nonsense.

Doofus

34,514 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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HertsBiker said:
If it were free, and clean, and stress free, and there were no hold ups or accidents... Then maybe it could be called a privilege. However like the rest of you, I have passed a car test, and my bike test, pay tax on my salary in order to be wallet-raped at the pumps in order to go to work. Then my fuel tax is given to work shy people and the army so they can kill foreigners in wars we don't want. Then I pay insurance, that is taxed, servicing that's taxed, am not permitted to use any degree of performance... And despite paying through the nose, and having to jump through hoops to stay legal, some people call it a "privilege ". Being a royal is privileged. This isn't. We earnt this, don't let them tell you it is a privileged. It's your right as a fully paid up member of car club UK. Stop being fooled, it is our right once we pass our tests. It isn't something we have been given for free. And we subsidise public transport, even when there is often not public transport available for us. And this is a privileged? Get real. We're being given taken for fools here.
And therefore, what?

mph1977

12,467 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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interloper said:
I think you misunderstand the term Privilege.

You have basic rights, in this country a right to a free education, basic health care etc. You don't have a right to a car or driving, these need to be bought or earned. So I would class that as a privilege?
exactly

it's generally used to 'deal' with those who consider driving to be one of your 'ooman rites ,innit'

scenario8

7,974 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Rawwr said:
What a load of old nonsense.
Perhaps a little unfair to single out this thread alone, though. PH is full of it. Full to the brim.

A very poor rant from the OP. Needs much more swearing for starters.

okie592

2,711 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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There's always the bus

Motorrad

6,811 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Rawwr said:
What a load of old nonsense.
Everything is though isn't it?

I prefer to sit back in my leather armchair, sip on my quarter cask single malt with a robusto romeo y julieta and judge other people on the internet.

Wulluff

650 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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HertsBiker said:
If it were free, and clean, and stress free, and there were no hold ups or accidents... Then maybe it could be called a privilege. However like the rest of you, I have passed a car test, and my bike test, pay tax on my salary in order to be wallet-raped at the pumps in order to go to work. Then my fuel tax is given to work shy people and the army so they can kill foreigners in wars we don't want. Then I pay insurance, that is taxed, servicing that's taxed, am not permitted to use any degree of performance... And despite paying through the nose, and having to jump through hoops to stay legal, some people call it a "privilege ". Being a royal is privileged. This isn't. We earnt this, don't let them tell you it is a privileged. It's your right as a fully paid up member of car club UK. Stop being fooled, it is our right once we pass our tests. It isn't something we have been given for free. And we subsidise public transport, even when there is often not public transport available for us. And this is a privileged? Get real. We're being given taken for fools here.
"is given to work shy people and the army"

Whatever your argument is, it has nothing whatever to do with British military personnel.

So fk off

McSam

6,753 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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interloper said:
I think you misunderstand the term Privilege.

You have basic rights, in this country a right to a free education, basic health care etc. You don't have a right to a car or driving, these need to be bought or earned. So I would class that as a privilege?
Quite.

The OP seems to present a (quite poor but nonetheless) argument that driving is a privilege rather than a right, and then concludes it by saying it's not a privilege.

Strange thread is strange.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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The OP seriously needs to get laid and stop reading socialist drivel.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

176 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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LoonR1 said:
The OP seriously needs to get laid and stop reading socialist drivel.
Too right comrade Loon...

DanielSan

20,039 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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LoonR1 said:
The OP and anyone like this are utter misinformed fkwits.
EFA.

J4CKO

46,958 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Now, cycling, that is a right.

Retreats to safe distance....

Pints

18,451 posts

224 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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okie592 said:
There's always the bus
yes

I think more people need reminding that driving is very much a privilege and not a right.

The driving often witnessed on the roads would indicate that more people should indeed be taking a bus.

krissharm

2,223 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Wulluff said:
"is given to work shy people and the army"

Whatever your argument is, it has nothing whatever to do with British military personnel.

So fk off
As soon as you lumped the workshy with the army you nailed your own coffin lid

mph1977

12,467 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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J4CKO said:
Now, cycling, that is a right.

Retreats to safe distance....
certainly pedestrian use of the road is a right.

Brigand

2,547 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Brigand said:
Inflated senses of entitlement.......
Taken from the "People's attitudes" thread in the Lounge.

Just like Further Education, going to College, Uni and Driving is a choice you make and fund yourself, there is no 'right' to any of them in the sense that the Government should pay for you to do it.

otolith

69,280 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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You cannot be arbitrarily prevented from driving at the whim of the state without due process. If it worked like a shotgun licence, where the Chief Officer of Police must be "satisfied that the applicant is a fit and proper person to be entrusted with firearms", I could accept the idea that it is a privilege.