Cars that you would buy regardless of better alternatives
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Saw one of these today, nice burble (not sure if remapped/tuned) and loved it. So I had to go and see how much one was.
http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/t...
I'm sure those that have driven this and the common rivals will say the Boxster/Cayman, or even a 370z.
But this is a car that just appeals and Audi's don't normally do it for me.
So what do you like that others would go "What you buy that for?"

http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/t...
I'm sure those that have driven this and the common rivals will say the Boxster/Cayman, or even a 370z.
But this is a car that just appeals and Audi's don't normally do it for me.
So what do you like that others would go "What you buy that for?"
On this specific example for your benefit OP:
I currently own a TTS and have owned a Cayman and a 991 911 recently.
The TTS is a really good car, it stacks up very well. I actually got back 5 minutes ago from a blast on some of the best roads here in Wales, it's great fun.
The Cayman is unquestionably more capable on demanding B roads but the margin between them, even on these hardcore roads, is less than I honestly expected. When you see how easily you can remap the TTS to push it into a higher performance bracket, it is by no means a poor choice.
I have the manual but I feel the DSG would really suit this car a lot and had I not been able to get such a good deal on this specific car I would have held out for a DSG one.
Would go for the 18 inch wheels too, mine is on 19s which look great, but on poor road surfaces(plenty around here) it gets choppy with 19s and the dampers set to sport mode. It is still the only sport damper system I have come across that actually feels worth pressing mind you.
Overall I feel I'll be keeping it for a while, I'll probably wait for the 981 Cayman R before I move on.
I currently own a TTS and have owned a Cayman and a 991 911 recently.
The TTS is a really good car, it stacks up very well. I actually got back 5 minutes ago from a blast on some of the best roads here in Wales, it's great fun.
The Cayman is unquestionably more capable on demanding B roads but the margin between them, even on these hardcore roads, is less than I honestly expected. When you see how easily you can remap the TTS to push it into a higher performance bracket, it is by no means a poor choice.
I have the manual but I feel the DSG would really suit this car a lot and had I not been able to get such a good deal on this specific car I would have held out for a DSG one.
Would go for the 18 inch wheels too, mine is on 19s which look great, but on poor road surfaces(plenty around here) it gets choppy with 19s and the dampers set to sport mode. It is still the only sport damper system I have come across that actually feels worth pressing mind you.
Overall I feel I'll be keeping it for a while, I'll probably wait for the 981 Cayman R before I move on.
I'm currently trying to decide whether to buy a mk1 CRX:

In pretty much every way the mk2 CRX is better.

Better engine, brakes, suspension, less rust, better visibility, faster, more economical, better equipped, better looking and of course you can get it with a VTec engine. The 16i16 goes for about the same money as the mk1.
And yet I want the boxy one with the live rear axle, vertical door handles, manual windows, torsion spring front suspension, cracking plastic front wings, no rear visibility, rear drum brakes, nothing to hide the stuff in the boot and almost universally riddled with rust.
The same money as either would buy a 328i that is ten years newer. It makes no sense at all to want a mk1 CRX.

In pretty much every way the mk2 CRX is better.

Better engine, brakes, suspension, less rust, better visibility, faster, more economical, better equipped, better looking and of course you can get it with a VTec engine. The 16i16 goes for about the same money as the mk1.
And yet I want the boxy one with the live rear axle, vertical door handles, manual windows, torsion spring front suspension, cracking plastic front wings, no rear visibility, rear drum brakes, nothing to hide the stuff in the boot and almost universally riddled with rust.
The same money as either would buy a 328i that is ten years newer. It makes no sense at all to want a mk1 CRX.
I've been a little guilty of this in the past. I'd buy German or often Italian (I've had a fair share of Alfas - I like them, they don't like me) but never, ever anything from the Japs, on the grounds that Japanese cars do absolutely diddly squat for me. No personality. I don't even like sitting in them. It's rather ignorant I know, but nothing has ever swayed me towards them.
Slight edit: a mate had a Mazda RX8, I liked it. And another pal had a Nissan 350Z, that too I liked. But would I put my own money into them? Never!
Slight edit: a mate had a Mazda RX8, I liked it. And another pal had a Nissan 350Z, that too I liked. But would I put my own money into them? Never!

Edited by ajb85 on Monday 4th February 18:06
I have the car in the OP (although mine is black, with smaller wheels and a DSG 'box) so I guess that's the answer to the question for me!
Oh and people often say "why didn't you get a (insert crazily fast ruinous money pit)". Everything stacked up for the TT for me.
Oh and people often say "why didn't you get a (insert crazily fast ruinous money pit)". Everything stacked up for the TT for me.
Edited by blank on Monday 4th February 18:15
My 520i E34 Touring fits in here. I'm 22 (just), and it is practically my first car. It doesn't make sense in any way because I don't need the enormous space for anything I can think of, other than a road-trip in some distant future. I don't track the fuel use because I know it's ridiculous. I just like the car for the je-ne-sais-quoi, and the lovely straight six. I love to drive it, and it's one of those that ask me to look back when I walk away from it. All for a very reasonable £650. Why look for a better alternative?
The car I actually bought regardless of "better" alternatives

Lightning Silver Vantage S Roadster 001 by mikey k V8VR, on Flickr

Lightning Silver Vantage S Roadster 001 by mikey k V8VR, on Flickr
mikey k said:
The car I actually bought regardless of "better" alternatives

Lightning Silver Vantage S Roadster 001 by mikey k V8VR, on Flickr
Astons fit this criteria well I think, they are worse than a few competitors on paper and logically, but you can forgive them all of that for the looks and the character.
Lightning Silver Vantage S Roadster 001 by mikey k V8VR, on Flickr
Even though I have a nice new Qashqai that I love, I still find myself looking at the Vauxhall Meriva and Zafira with interest, even though they are a lot less sexy, have less features and I don't need the extra space. Still, something about them draws me in.
If I had been able to get one for less than the price of the Qashqai, I probably would have, even though there is much nicer cars out there for the same money.
If I had been able to get one for less than the price of the Qashqai, I probably would have, even though there is much nicer cars out there for the same money.
boweslion said:
Even though I have a nice new Qashqai that I love, I still find myself looking at the Vauxhall Meriva and Zafira with interest, even though they are a lot less sexy, have less features and I don't need the extra space. Still, something about them draws me in.
If I had been able to get one for less than the price of the Qashqai, I probably would have, even though there is much nicer cars out there for the same money.
Qashqai, sexy? Who's sitting in the passenger seat?If I had been able to get one for less than the price of the Qashqai, I probably would have, even though there is much nicer cars out there for the same money.
I do it quite a bit myself when chatting about cars with work colleagues, or friends down the pub. I always prefer something other then the mainstream. Either something that looks gorgeous, or has a bit of character. Or just looks good. Like the TTS in sprint blue. Also think the S5 looks good. So I think that boils down to that colour.
Was loading the car up in Tescos the other day and a chap was just getting into an Alfa GTV V6. He caught me looking and I think I'd of stopped to ask about it if I wasn't in a rush and his girlfriend wasn't rushing him around the shops.
Made a nice noise and still looks good to this day. Nice cabin too. Mentioned this down the pub and got the typical Alfa comments and told how a 330i would be a better bet if you want a coupe with a bit of poke and comfort.
Was loading the car up in Tescos the other day and a chap was just getting into an Alfa GTV V6. He caught me looking and I think I'd of stopped to ask about it if I wasn't in a rush and his girlfriend wasn't rushing him around the shops.
Made a nice noise and still looks good to this day. Nice cabin too. Mentioned this down the pub and got the typical Alfa comments and told how a 330i would be a better bet if you want a coupe with a bit of poke and comfort.
If its a 2nd (daily) car then its not really a big deal about getting the best drivers car if you've got youre razor edged road racer in the garage on semi slicks 
Hatches - Abarth 500, clios better, faster, looks less bubble, yet it is rather cool.
Also the volvo t5 thingy, saw one about 3-4 years ago, looked really rather good.
Saloon - 159 in back, oozes awsome.

Hatches - Abarth 500, clios better, faster, looks less bubble, yet it is rather cool.
Also the volvo t5 thingy, saw one about 3-4 years ago, looked really rather good.
Saloon - 159 in back, oozes awsome.
Captain Muppet said:
I'm currently trying to decide whether to buy a mk1 CRX:

In pretty much every way the mk2 CRX is better.

Better engine, brakes, suspension, less rust, better visibility, faster, more economical, better equipped, better looking and of course you can get it with a VTec engine. The 16i16 goes for about the same money as the mk1.
And yet I want the boxy one with the live rear axle, vertical door handles, manual windows, torsion spring front suspension, cracking plastic front wings, no rear visibility, rear drum brakes, nothing to hide the stuff in the boot and almost universally riddled with rust.
The same money as either would buy a 328i that is ten years newer. It makes no sense at all to want a mk1 CRX.
I had two mk1 CRX's and can understand the appeal, I would like another one some day if there's any left without rust! 
In pretty much every way the mk2 CRX is better.

Better engine, brakes, suspension, less rust, better visibility, faster, more economical, better equipped, better looking and of course you can get it with a VTec engine. The 16i16 goes for about the same money as the mk1.
And yet I want the boxy one with the live rear axle, vertical door handles, manual windows, torsion spring front suspension, cracking plastic front wings, no rear visibility, rear drum brakes, nothing to hide the stuff in the boot and almost universally riddled with rust.
The same money as either would buy a 328i that is ten years newer. It makes no sense at all to want a mk1 CRX.
I think it's the character of them, the fact they are basic with very few luxuries (apart from the electric sunroof oddly enough!), with a revvy, unburstable 16v engine, superb slick gear change and fun handling.
Never got the chance to try a mk2 version, that's another one of my missions for the future.
Captain Muppet said:
I'm currently trying to decide whether to buy a mk1 CRX:

In pretty much every way the mk2 CRX is better.

Better engine, brakes, suspension, less rust, better visibility, faster, more economical, better equipped, better looking and of course you can get it with a VTec engine. The 16i16 goes for about the same money as the mk1.
And yet I want the boxy one with the live rear axle, vertical door handles, manual windows, torsion spring front suspension, cracking plastic front wings, no rear visibility, rear drum brakes, nothing to hide the stuff in the boot and almost universally riddled with rust.
The same money as either would buy a 328i that is ten years newer. It makes no sense at all to want a mk1 CRX.
Get the MK1, much much cooler.
In pretty much every way the mk2 CRX is better.

Better engine, brakes, suspension, less rust, better visibility, faster, more economical, better equipped, better looking and of course you can get it with a VTec engine. The 16i16 goes for about the same money as the mk1.
And yet I want the boxy one with the live rear axle, vertical door handles, manual windows, torsion spring front suspension, cracking plastic front wings, no rear visibility, rear drum brakes, nothing to hide the stuff in the boot and almost universally riddled with rust.
The same money as either would buy a 328i that is ten years newer. It makes no sense at all to want a mk1 CRX.
RattusRattus said:
Captain Muppet,
I used to own that mk1 CRX, it's currently for sale. The character of the mk1 far outshines the mk2.
I'm currently toying with buying it, but logic keeps telling me not to. I had a mk1 and a couple of mk2s, and the mk2 is better at everything. Plus I don't need another car. And certainly not a car I need to weld up.I used to own that mk1 CRX, it's currently for sale. The character of the mk1 far outshines the mk2.
I still want it though.
Rammy76 said:
I had two mk1 CRX's and can understand the appeal, I would like another one some day if there's any left without rust!
I think it's the character of them, the fact they are basic with very few luxuries (apart from the electric sunroof oddly enough!), with a revvy, unburstable 16v engine, superb slick gear change and fun handling.
Never got the chance to try a mk2 version, that's another one of my missions for the future.
The mk2 is very similar, but better at everything. Except it has normal door handles, has frame around the windows and the rear seats aren't trimmed to look best when folded down.I think it's the character of them, the fact they are basic with very few luxuries (apart from the electric sunroof oddly enough!), with a revvy, unburstable 16v engine, superb slick gear change and fun handling.
Never got the chance to try a mk2 version, that's another one of my missions for the future.
rumple said:
Get the MK1, much much cooler.
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