Insurance Cancelled - Please help!
Insurance Cancelled - Please help!
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gregog

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19 posts

204 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Hi All,
Wondering if anyone can give me some advice. I recently returned to the country after a month abroad, to find that my payment card had been declined by my insurer (lets call them dAdmiral) because my bank cancelled my card whilst I was abroad. They had sent a few letters, but given that I was out of the country, I didn't get them until my return. No phone calls/ emails received.

Upon my return, I bought a Smart Car - so that I can save some pennies. When I phoned up to transfer insurance, they informed me of the failed payment and that the policy had been cancelled, so I was unable to update/ amend. As such I paid the charges for the missed payment and went about my merry way. They said that I would have to start a new Policy, as they couldn't reinstate the old one with new car and address details.

So, my problem is this:
My complimentary insurance runs out on my smart car tomorrow. The price of my insurance is high because of a theft of my entire Vehicle in 2011, which I was found to be not at fault. Plus a motorbike accident, again not at fault, claim still going on.
What I didn't know, is that if you have had insurance declined/ cancelled, you must declare it. As soon as I do this, the cost of the policies on comparison sites raises from £700 to £1500.

Is there anything that anyone can recommend I do? Any advice would be greatly received. I understand that the policy would go up, but for it to go up that much, surely, is unfair! I paid the policy in full, not monthly direct debits - I would have thought this would go in my favour?!

Any help/ advice/ suggestions or knowledge would be gratefully receieved. I'm practically banging my head off the desk here.

Many thanks in advance,
Gregog

rijmij99

423 posts

191 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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don't tell them and take the risk, can't see them finding out though

gregog

Original Poster:

19 posts

204 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Thats all well and good, but in the event of an accident - my insurance would be completely void. Leading me open to prosecution etc... Having nearly been killed by a driver whilst on my motorbike, had he not have had insurance, I would have been knackared! I only just got out of surgery again on Thursday!

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

187 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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gregog said:
Any help/ advice/ suggestions
Yep, next time you go abroad for a month don't ignore your bank account and pay your monthly bills by direct debit, not a debit card which you never use and thus don't notice when it's not working for a month. smile

Shambler

1,221 posts

174 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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ask the finance ombudsman, its free and they may be able to help

alextwo

7 posts

171 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Upon your return did you not read the several letters from Admiral before you bought the Smart?

gregog

Original Poster:

19 posts

204 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Thanks Shambler - may well give them a call tomorrow.

Caulkhead - thanks for your useless input! haha! I paid it in full, because setting up a direct debit would have cost me an extra £230 on the policy over the period of 12 months. I have a seperate account that I use whilst I'm abroad to avoid horrendous charges. As such, I wasn't keeping tabs on that account. Nobody likes a smart a$$ wink haha

gregog

Original Poster:

19 posts

204 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Alex, happened hand in hand. Bought the car in London, letters were up North.

gregog

Original Poster:

19 posts

204 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Irrespective of the situations that lead to the cancellation, or how stupid you perceieve me to have been. It's a huge mess and I'm just looking for some friendly advice and suggestions from anyone that might be in the know. Not looking to be made to feel even more stooopid!

pidsy

8,704 posts

187 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Come on guys, this isnt the lounge.

Gregog has dropped a bk and realises that - he's just after some useful help.

slinky

15,704 posts

279 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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You haven't had insurance declined or cancelled for policy reasons, just a payment failure.. Don't worry about it.

pidsy

8,704 posts

187 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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If it was cancelled at the time of renewal because you hadnt notified them of your acceptance of their renewal quote, that shouldnt count as a declined/cancelled policy should it?

I would think it just counts as you not renewing.

TVR1

5,478 posts

255 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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rijmij99 said:
don't tell them and take the risk, can't see them finding out though
I really hope you are not serious? 'Utmost good faith' works both ways in the insurance industry. Believe it or not, if the OP actually speaks to his prospective insurer and explains the situation then he may very well have the explanation for cancellation accepted. And, a second believe it or not, insurance companies are not out to 'screw' motorists. Risk V Reward, you see. Hence why I can insure a classic £30k SL500 with no NCB, no claims and no convictions(yet) for £125 a year. Go figure.

alextwo

7 posts

171 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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gregog said:
Alex, happened hand in hand. Bought the car in London, letters were up North.
Ah, ok - that's unfortunate.

Have you tried calling dAdmiral and getting a quote based on your previous policy?

Might be worth asking them outright whether it counts as a "proper" policy cancellation.

gregog

Original Poster:

19 posts

204 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Pidsy, I did wonder if I could swing it that way. Unfortunately though, as I didn't contact them to renew the policy, they automatically rolled it over. Then, when they were unable to take payment, they continued giving me cover. So they covered me throughout January and cancelled it on January 1st. So I had to pay for the cover they provided between this period - £99. So technically, I don't know if I could swing it that way...

Tom H

543 posts

217 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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gregog said:
Irrespective of the situations that lead to the cancellation, or how stupid you perceieve me to have been. It's a huge mess and I'm just looking for some friendly advice and suggestions from anyone that might be in the know. Not looking to be made to feel even more stooopid!

Lagerlout

1,812 posts

266 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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pidsy said:
If it was cancelled at the time of renewal because you hadnt notified them of your acceptance of their renewal quote, that shouldnt count as a declined/cancelled policy should it?

I would think it just counts as you not renewing.
+1

Ask another insurer over the phone when requesting a quote for clarification.

surveyor

18,705 posts

214 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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InI the traditional sense did a cancellation mean you had breached terms or been fraudulent. Perhaps it's time a new category was created for these...

Tom H

543 posts

217 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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In this the broker should have asked all relevant information. The risk transferred from you to the broker and then not your problem, should an insurer ever query if indemnity issue arises.

Raize

1,476 posts

209 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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gregog said:
So, my problem is this:
My complimentary insurance runs out on my smart car tomorrow. The price of my insurance is high because of a theft of my entire Vehicle in 2011, which I was found to be not at fault. Plus a motorbike accident, again not at fault, claim still going on.
What I didn't know, is that if you have had insurance declined/ cancelled, you must declare it. As soon as I do this, the cost of the policies on comparison sites raises from £700 to £1500.
Your fault, you pay the money. The insurers are completely justified in this.