Petrol 'shelf life'
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itz_baseline

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834 posts

251 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I have a jerry can full of fuel I bought about 2 years - filled up for a track day, never used it and forgot all about it. I don't want to put it in the car if it's either 'spoiled' or there's a chance it's going to have corroded the inside of the jerry can and I pour a load of rubbish into my tank.

Will this still be good to use?

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I'm not sure how good it will still be as fuel (the RAC chap once said that most fuel >6 months old starts to go off, hence why an MGB wouldn't start - citation needed), but it certainly shouldn't cause any problems with corrosion. If in doubt give it a shake and pour some into a glass.

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

220 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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What car you going to stick it in?

If it's just a daily I'd whack it in and then dilute with decent fuel.

I'd be more hesitant for a performance engine of most descriptions.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

295 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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The fuel in Mrs Muppet's bike is a year old, but that ran fine last week.

The 160bhp/litre engine didn't seem to notice.

chrisw75

100 posts

174 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Have three year old (at least) Super Unleaded in the XJS.. still starts fine every time I want to move it.

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

189 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Well it definitely won't corrode the container - if anything it would protect it.

Uncle John

5,381 posts

221 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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All this guff about petrol going off....

Test it by chucking a match at it

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Where do these myths come from?

Petrol does not "go off" in an airtight container. However, if the container isn't fully sealed then over time the more volatile compounds will evaporate off leaving you with petrol which makes it much harder to start an engine. As many lawn mower owners will be able to testify next month!

If you have old petrol hanging about just sling it in your car when the tank is 3/4 full with fresh stuff - but make sure you don't tip any rust and gunk into your car!

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Uncle John said:
All this guff about petrol going off....

Test it by chucking a match at it
Exactly my thought too hehe

MrB1obby

771 posts

180 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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garyhun said:
Uncle John said:
All this guff about petrol going off....

Test it by chucking a match at it
Exactly my thought too hehe
And another thought here!

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

220 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Where do these myths come from?

Petrol does not "go off" in an airtight container. However, if the container isn't fully sealed then over time the more volatile compounds will evaporate off leaving you with petrol which makes it much harder to start an engine. As many lawn mower owners will be able to testify next month!
I don't think it's a myth mate. It does start to become more viscous as time goes by regardless of being in a sealed container or not. Quite a complicated bit of chemistry is petrochemicals and additives nowadays.

It was a chap from Shell was lecturing me about it when I had 12 month old petrol in my Golf. He knew what he was talking about. Obviously I wasn't listening otherwise I'd be better placed to discuss the point.

I used it anyway of course.

itz_baseline

Original Poster:

834 posts

251 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Prof Prolapse said:
What car you going to stick it in?

If it's just a daily I'd whack it in and then dilute with decent fuel.

I'd be more hesitant for a performance engine of most descriptions.
Integra Type R.

Sounds like I'll be OK but I'll go 50/50 with new fuel then just to be sure.

conkerman

3,519 posts

165 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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It will be fine.

Don't worry.

(Ex fuel chemist.)

SMGB

790 posts

169 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Yes petrol can turn into jelly, usually it's in the tank of a barn find thats been standing for 20+ years. We used to get the MoDs dregs from the sump of their syatem at the RAe. It had been deployed to the services, not used within its shelf life and than shipped off to places like research establishments where the MT wasnt potentially a matter of life or death. It was stored for years with us and some of the fuel bowsers would then take a month to burn off a tankful once it got into a vehicle. No fails to proceed ever. Mind you the Landies would pink a bit if you were having a laff with them.

itz_baseline

Original Poster:

834 posts

251 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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SMGB said:
Yes petrol can turn into jelly, usually it's in the tank of a barn find thats been standing for 20+ years. We used to get the MoDs dregs from the sump of their syatem at the RAe. It had been deployed to the services, not used within its shelf life and than shipped off to places like research establishments where the MT wasnt potentially a matter of life or death. It was stored for years with us and some of the fuel bowsers would then take a month to burn off a tankful once it got into a vehicle. No fails to proceed ever. Mind you the Landies would pink a bit if you were having a laff with them.
I wish I understood this.

Dr Interceptor

8,183 posts

226 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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itz_baseline said:
SMGB said:
Yes petrol can turn into jelly, usually it's in the tank of a barn find thats been standing for 20+ years. We used to get the MoDs dregs from the sump of their syatem at the RAe. It had been deployed to the services, not used within its shelf life and than shipped off to places like research establishments where the MT wasnt potentially a matter of life or death. It was stored for years with us and some of the fuel bowsers would then take a month to burn off a tankful once it got into a vehicle. No fails to proceed ever. Mind you the Landies would pink a bit if you were having a laff with them.
I wish I understood this.
I do understand it - but then I live in Farnborough so know what the RAE is wink

TheEnd

15,370 posts

218 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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What can happen is certain more volatile fractions can evaporate off and you loose some of that sweet sweet goodness.
The best storage is a sealed container full to the top, the worst is something half full that gets opened every now and again.

Willeh85

760 posts

173 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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itz_baseline said:
I wish I understood this.
+1 I agree

SMGB

790 posts

169 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Willeh85 said:
itz_baseline said:
I wish I understood this.
+1 I agree
Your loss, call yourselves PH and dont know who used to operate the Farnborough Airfield where the eponymous airshow is based.nono

TheEnd

15,370 posts

218 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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It's the rest of the post that people don't understand.
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/