Are flat tyres the new busted lights?
Are flat tyres the new busted lights?
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Futuramic

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1,763 posts

235 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Say what you will; manufacturing methods, complexity, throwaway culture, the private fleet on our roads is becoming ever more poorly maintained.

The big thing a few years ago was blown bulbs. They were all the rage! Having both headlights working was the mark of a strang obsessive - not forgetting pesky tail and brake lights. The worst were cars with blue sidelights and one headlight. I don't mind the modification but it's proof that the driver at least is capable of replacing a bulb. So why not all of them?

I digress. It seems, round here at least, that blown bulbs are passe. Everyone's got them so it's time for a new craze. The answer appears to be low, and in some cases fully flat, tyres. I've seen several cars driving around practically scraping their wheel rims. Is this a sad by product of harsh times? Where drivers cannot even afford a part worn or remould. Or is it just apathy? Either way surely they must notice!

Fubar1977

919 posts

170 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Symptomatic of modern society.
If there isn`t a big red warning on the dashboard then the car`s fine, no need to do regular/weekly checks on things like tyres, fluids etc.

Cars are now seen as domestic appliances by the majority of drivers.

Sad but true.

steveo3002

11,232 posts

204 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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saw one of those invalid scooter things limping along the street the other day with the tyre hanging off its wheel

S0 What

3,358 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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steveo3002 said:
saw one of those invalid scooter things limping along the street the other day with the tyre hanging off its wheel
Well to be fair there's nowhere to carry a spare (let alaon a jack and wheel brace on one of those and i guess being disabled meens even if there was they couldn't change it and last time i looked the AA dont take mobility scooter on? rolleyes

It's all down to the modern "somone should have told me/done it for me" attitude of todays ahole, sorry i meen pleb, no i meen averadge human being.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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more potholes and speedbumps to knacker your wheels/tyres if you get it wrong.

Personally caught a pothole the other day. Slow puncture developed over the next couple days. Even as someone that has a clue about cars, it wasn't obvious from the steering wheel. No juddering/shaking. Was actually the plip,plip,plip noise on a quiet road that gave it away.

Redlake27

2,255 posts

274 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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I think the tyre pressure monitoring systems (that are now law on all new cars) are a good thing.

Most tyre failures result from a very slow puncture that the driver doesn't notice until it is too late. I reckon Monitors will catch potential failures much earlier. I just worry that a red light for tyres on a dashboard will be like an oil pressure light to most drivers. 'If the tyre light isn't on there's no need for a visual check at all'


Oldandslow

2,405 posts

236 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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I'd say busted bulbs are still a big issue. I see loads of one eyed monsters every day or even worse those that copensate by sticking on their fogs or using main beam until you flash them.

Cupramax

11,007 posts

282 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Redlake27 said:
I think the tyre pressure monitoring systems (that are now law on all new cars) are a good thing.

Most tyre failures result from a very slow puncture that the driver doesn't notice until it is too late. I reckon Monitors will catch potential failures much earlier.
Really? When did this become mandatory?

Fubar1977

919 posts

170 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Cupramax said:
Really? When did this become mandatory?
Quite recently I think.
Getting hard to keep track of all the new "mandatory" stuff they keep adding.
In tyhe old days you just checked your car over.
Not necessarily a bad thing as such but it sometimes gives people a false sense of security.
Just because there are no warnings on the dash doesn`t mean all is well.
Combine this with 2 year service intervals and, potentially, 2 year MOT`s and I think it`s storing up trouble.


Cupramax

11,007 posts

282 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Fubar1977 said:
Quite recently I think.
Must be very, I have an Audi A5 options list dated Jan 2013 that has tyre pressure warning as a cost option.... I thought it was just ESP that had become mandatory.

Andurron

1,599 posts

167 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Fubar1977 said:
Quite recently I think.
Getting hard to keep track of all the new "mandatory" stuff they keep adding.
In tyhe old days you just checked your car over.
Not necessarily a bad thing as such but it sometimes gives people a false sense of security.
Just because there are no warnings on the dash doesn`t mean all is well.
Combine this with 2 year service intervals and, potentially, 2 year MOT`s and I think it`s storing up trouble.
Every new registered car in the US has to have them after the Firestone/Ford Explorer debacle several years ago, and they're going to come into force in the EU in 2014.

Cupramax

11,007 posts

282 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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That makes more sense... thumbup

Pints

18,451 posts

224 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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My previous manager was happy to admit the only time his tyres were checked was when they were fitted.

Another colleague checks his tyres about twice a year, if he remembers. And it's best not to mention oil levels.

rolleyes

JREwing

17,551 posts

209 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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I've just taken my car back after lending it to someone for an extended period of time to find a horrible squeak from the gear linkage. When I asked about it this person said "oh yeah, that started about 6 weeks ago. It really, really annoyed me! The warning light wasn't on though"
Well why the fk didn't you think to do something about it/let me know? Why did you think that a 7 year old cheap car would have a light for that? . What if it was a sign of impending failure of the aforementioned linkage?

Redlake27

2,255 posts

274 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Cupramax said:
Redlake27 said:
I think the tyre pressure monitoring systems (that are now law on all new cars) are a good thing.

Most tyre failures result from a very slow puncture that the driver doesn't notice until it is too late. I reckon Monitors will catch potential failures much earlier.
Really? When did this become mandatory?
Here's some info....


http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/2013/2/7/company-c...

Valgar

850 posts

165 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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JREwing said:
I've just taken my car back after lending it to someone for an extended period of time to find a horrible squeak from the gear linkage. When I asked about it this person said "oh yeah, that started about 6 weeks ago
Never lend your car to anyone for anything longer than a quick trip somewhere, I once lent mine out and got it back with a scuff on the bumper, puts strain on the friendship that's for sure.

Anyway I digress, some people take that little care of vehicles, at our company tires come back to the workshop with threads exposed. When the later LDV's came out with larger windscreen washer bottles we knew it was a bad thing, becuase it meant people would wait even longer before opening the bonnet.

Steffan

10,362 posts

258 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Oldandslow said:
I'd say busted bulbs are still a big issue. I see loads of one eyed monsters every day or even worse those that copensate by sticking on their fogs or using main beam until you flash them.
How True! How True! Not only incompetent and lazy idiots but also aggressive.

MG CHRIS

9,322 posts

197 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Redlake27 said:
I think the tyre pressure monitoring systems (that are now law on all new cars) are a good thing.
Nope but cars that have them fitted and are not working putting an error meassge up can now fail a mot. Its not cheap neither to replace the sensors in the wheels. Ive seen a few cars go past work with flat tyres and servicing cars the number of them with less than 10psi in them is on the up aswel.

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

186 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Does anyone else have urges to leave notes on cars that look like they have low tyre pressure!? It'd be public safety if done courteously, but I rarely have pen and paper at hand.

finlo

4,453 posts

233 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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I've gone to put air in the tyres of my car after its been stood awhile only to find 2-3 psi in some of the tyres yet you could'nt tell/feel or see they were low!!