When a 'new' model really meant 'new'

[Eighteeteewhy]

They don't make em like they used too...

Take this Escort model change for example, two totally different cars. Not some new lights, new seats and a iPod connector.






Am I just getting old?




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[Riknos]

Cost. 'nuff said. People fall for it, maximising profits with the company spending minimal amounts.

[Papa Hotel]

Eighteeteewhy said:

They don't make em like they used too...

Take this Escort model change for example, two totally different cars. Not some new lights, new seats and a iPod connector.






Am I just getting old?

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Poor example. That's not so much an example of an old vs new model as an example of how to ruin a brilliant car and almost destroy a brand.

[Superhoop]

But some cars are all new

Old Mazda6



New Mazda6



All they share is the name, and possibly the wheel nuts

[DrTre]

Superhoop said:

But some cars are all new

Old Mazda6



New Mazda6



All they share is the name, and possibly the wheel nuts

Blimey. That'd be damn nearly the epitome of what the OP is talking about for me.

[Pablo68]

DrTre said:

Superhoop said:

But some cars are all new

Old Mazda6



New Mazda6



All they share is the name, and possibly the wheel nuts

Blimey. That'd be damn nearly the epitome of what the OP is talking about for me.

Worse. There appears to be no MPS option.

[kentmotorcompany]

The two cars cited are at least 10 years apart.

If there was "totally" brand new model every 5 minutes, what do think that would do for residual values?

[chr15b]

Superhoop said:

But some cars are all new

Old Mazda6



New Mazda6



All they share is the name, and possibly the wheel nuts

Very lazy designing like the golf mk6 and mk7. Ok every body panel may be new, but the overall design is just a tarted up version of the previous one with parts changed for the sake of changing. Or were you being ironic?

[Superhoop]

Nope.

They don't share a single component (wheel nuts aside) and side by side, they look much more different than the pictures make them appear.

[ruff'n'smov]

DrTre said:

Superhoop said:

But some cars are all new

Old Mazda6



New Mazda6



All they share is the name, and possibly the wheel nuts

Blimey. That'd be damn nearly the epitome of what the OP is talking about for me.

I would agree just some tweeks of the same design. Same apron same roof line same rear profile.

I claim first on Audi, MB and BMW being the worst of the lot.





These 2 are a bit different.

[g3org3y]

Some radical changes:

E46 3 Series versus E90 3 Series
E38 7 Series versus E65 7 Series
E39 5 Series versus E60 5 Series

The most recent changes have been more evolutionary rather than revolutionary but that's typical for BMW in alternate generations. See E36->E46, E12->E28 etc

[Wulluff]

Eighteeteewhy said:

They don't make em like they used too...

Take this Escort model change for example, two totally different cars. Not some new lights, new seats and a iPod connector.






Am I just getting old?

As old as me. I loved my XR3


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[DoctorX]

Sticking with Fords, Cortina Mk 1-4 were quite dissimilar. More recently, the Discovery 2 and 3 were arguably quite different as were E39 and E60 5 series.

[HustleRussell]

Riknos said:

Cost. 'nuff said. People fall for it, maximising profits with the company spending minimal amounts.

[Mr AJ]

[roystinho]

New Clio, couldn't be more different from the old one

[Crafty_]

Vauxhall probably do this more than any other manufacturer.

Mk1 Cavalier -> Mk2 Cavalier -> Mk3 Cavalier -> Vectra -> Insignia all new platforms (for better or worse!)
The Mk4 & Mk5 astras have the same basic chassis, but pretty much everything bolted to them changed, all others are completely different.
Corsas too.

I think the French manufacturers tend to do this too ?

[McSam]

I think the OP confuses looking different with actually being different.

Why the hell would you make your new model totally disrupt your brand image or design language just to emphasise that it's a totally different car underneath? Almost all of the examples cited are truly new cars, because all major components are redesigned or replaced. So long as you make it look different enough that people can tell, what's the problem?

[GroundEffect]

OP, you're not thinking correctly.

An example: the 'new' Fiesta is actually an MCA - Mid-Cycle Action. To non-auto industry folks, it's a facelift. Not a new model, just an update to an existing one. There will be a REAL all-new Fiesta (on the B3 platform) in around 2020.

The same situation with the Focus. The last new model was the C346 in 2010/11 with a facelift in a few years and then the all-new model in 2018 or so.

[TimmyWimmyWoo]

How about this one? The only components they share, according to factory engineers I spoke to last year before it was announced, are a couple of bolts.

Golf Mark 6


Golf Mark 7