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Ari said:
rufusgti said:
Let's say BMW.
How much do they charge per hour. I believe it to be around 250 pounds.
How much does the average mechanic get at BMW.
I bet it's about 9.50phr?
Does anyone know specific numbers.
Do you think the labour rate is the main dealer's only cost? How much do they charge per hour. I believe it to be around 250 pounds.
How much does the average mechanic get at BMW.
I bet it's about 9.50phr?
Does anyone know specific numbers.
I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
rufusgti said:
Umm, no. That would be ridiculous.
I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
Why hasn't anyone thought of that before? I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
RivieraBlue said:
rufusgti said:
Umm, no. That would be ridiculous.
I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
Why hasn't anyone thought of that before? I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
Or did you think they could operate out of a corner of the main dealer's car park, under a gazebo?
rufusgti said:
Umm, no. That would be ridiculous.
I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
'Rake it in' is a bit subjective, as already said there are other costs but the hourly rate is a bit of a misleading figure to guestimate the business income on.I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
Firstly you have to actually have the work to do, filling an 8 hour day with 8 hours worth of jobs is a lot harder than it sounds.
Then you have to account for the fact that because Autodata or whatever says a job is x number of hours doesn't mean it takes that long, this swings both ways but some things take much longer than the book time suggests but because the book says that time you almost have to quote it in order to remain competative. You also can't charge per hour worked when doing diagnostics etc.
Taking all that into account then add on talking to customers, getting prices for bits, doing other daily business chores and suddenly your one man band specialist has only charged out 1 hour for an 8 hour day.
rufusgti said:
Umm, no. That would be ridiculous.
I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
Merc specialist near me charges £40/hour.I'm just pondering how much a small specialist could make, unnatached to the marque. If BMW charge 250 per hour, could a specialist charge maybe £175 hour?
Dealerships must have humongous running costs. I can see why they have to charge these figures. But it means as a specialist you should be able to rake it in.
Not sure what the main dealer rates are, think they're about £120/hour.
Jimmyarm said:
'Rake it in' is a bit subjective, as already said there are other costs but the hourly rate is a bit of a misleading figure to guestimate the business income on.
Firstly you have to actually have the work to do, filling an 8 hour day with 8 hours worth of jobs is a lot harder than it sounds.
Then you have to account for the fact that because Autodata or whatever says a job is x number of hours doesn't mean it takes that long, this swings both ways but some things take much longer than the book time suggests but because the book says that time you almost have to quote it in order to remain competative. You also can't charge per hour worked when doing diagnostics etc.
Taking all that into account then add on talking to customers, getting prices for bits, doing other daily business chores and suddenly your one man band specialist has only charged out 1 hour for an 8 hour day.
Very good points. You could easily end up working a 10 hour day and only getting paid for 4 or 5 of them. Do you think the average mechanic would make more or less than working for a dealer. Or do only the best succeed. I work as a tradesman and it always surprises me just how easy it is for some fairly average or sometimes crap tradesman can make a good living. Obviously less overheads than a specialist mechanic. How much do they get working for dealers, is it a trade that's looked after, pensions, pay rises, bonus'?Firstly you have to actually have the work to do, filling an 8 hour day with 8 hours worth of jobs is a lot harder than it sounds.
Then you have to account for the fact that because Autodata or whatever says a job is x number of hours doesn't mean it takes that long, this swings both ways but some things take much longer than the book time suggests but because the book says that time you almost have to quote it in order to remain competative. You also can't charge per hour worked when doing diagnostics etc.
Taking all that into account then add on talking to customers, getting prices for bits, doing other daily business chores and suddenly your one man band specialist has only charged out 1 hour for an 8 hour day.
rufusgti said:
Very good points. You could easily end up working a 10 hour day and only getting paid for 4 or 5 of them. Do you think the average mechanic would make more or less than working for a dealer.
I know someone who was a very highly regarded mechanic at a dealer. He made a fair bit as he got paid by the job, and if it was a 4 hour job that he could do in 2 hours, which, I'm lead to believe, wasn't uncommon, he would be quids in.He left and started his own place with a friend charging £55p/h. I don't know all the overheads, but they aren't huge as only two people work there, but I do know that they pay £18k/pa rent. They are both far better off going it alone, and seem to be constantly busy.
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