80 limit dead in the water?
80 limit dead in the water?
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mybrainhurts

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90,809 posts

286 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Those nice people at BRAKE sent me this email today...

Incompetent meddlers said:
New post on No to 80

Brake enthusiastically welcomes reported halt to 80mph plans
by noto80


Today the Daily Star reported that Prime Minister David Cameron was 'ready to put the brakes on raising the motorway speed limit to 80mph' following comments from new Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin that 'safety is paramount'.

Read the article. Read about the No to 80 campaign.

Julie Townsend, deputy chief executive, said: "We are extremely pleased by this news and hope to hear further confirmation from government soon. Evidence shows 80mph limits would cause more people to be killed and seriously injured on motorways, as well as creating more CO2, while it is doubtful they would lead to significant journey time savings.

"We warmly welcome Mr McLoughlin's comments that his priority is the safety of road users, and his acknowledgement that managing traffic speed is crucial in preventing needless deaths and injuries. We look forward to hearing more from the new transport ministers on how they will usher in a better era for safety on roads and help to counter the recent increase in casualties."

The No to 80 campaign is coordinated by Brake and backed by Campaign for Better Transport, Campaign to Protect Rural England, Greenpeace, Operation Noah, RoadPeace, Road Victims Trust, The UK Noise Association and 10:10.
Is this correct?

RivieraBlue

119 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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I always thought it was 80

Mr Sparkle

1,936 posts

201 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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It was never going to happen.

DCLXIV

362 posts

166 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Incompetent meddlers said:
The No to 80 campaign is coordinated by Brake and backed by Campaign for Better Transport, Campaign to Protect Rural England, Greenpeace, Operation Noah, RoadPeace, Road Victims Trust, The UK Noise Association and 10:10.
That's basically a list of every organisation I don't like.

MotorcyclesFish

211 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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I would like to see statistics of speeds observed on motorways. I'll bet 70 isn't more than 80th percentile on major routes, for passenger cars.

Pablo68

910 posts

166 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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RivieraBlue said:
I always thought it was 80
^^ This

otolith

69,446 posts

235 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Cunch of bunts.

Ved

3,949 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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I'll drive to the conditions thanks and agree with the above. Cannot stand these blinkered do-gooders. Utterly clueless cave dwelling idiots.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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This whole subject makes me chuckle.

Do 80 on many motorways in the UK and you'll be one of the slower vehicles by some margin.
Plus there are no longer any trafpol to catch people either.

Mattt

16,664 posts

249 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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DCLXIV said:
Incompetent meddlers said:
The No to 80 campaign is coordinated by Brake and backed by Campaign for Better Transport, Campaign to Protect Rural England, Greenpeace, Operation Noah, RoadPeace, Road Victims Trust, The UK Noise Association and 10:10.
That's basically a list of every organisation I don't like.
yes

Lazygraduate

1,790 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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anonymous said:
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Interestingly, I think five years ago this might have been correct, but nowadays IMHO traffic on the motorway seems to have slowed considerably compared to the last few years! Or maybe that's all the 50mph average speed checks...

y2blade

56,321 posts

246 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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anonymous said:
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This^^^^


Froomee

1,503 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Just do 80 it's not like there are many police on the roads to enforce it wink

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Lazygraduate said:
anonymous said:
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Interestingly, I think five years ago this might have been correct, but nowadays IMHO traffic on the motorway seems to have slowed considerably compared to the last few years! Or maybe that's all the 50mph average speed checks...
Agree not much comes past you if your sat at an indicated 80 these days, think many folks have slowed down due to the fuel costs and the average speed cams too.

Leins

10,489 posts

179 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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DCLXIV said:
That's basically a list of every organisation I don't like.
Apart from "The UK Noise Association", that sounds great! Wonder what dB levels you need to be hitting to be allowed join?

otolith

69,446 posts

235 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Depends on the car, but an indicated 80 is unlikely to be over the threshold for prosecution.

mcgandalf

666 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Was the original idea to have this 80 limit cover motorways only, or extend it to HQDC A-roads?

Emeye

9,781 posts

254 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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IanMorewood said:
Agree not much comes past you if your sat at an indicated 80 these days, think many folks have slowed down due to the fuel costs and the average speed cams too.
Definitely this.

otolith

69,446 posts

235 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Managed motorways only. The opposition really is knee jerk nonsense from anti-car groups.

soad

34,721 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Mr Sparkle said:
It was never going to happen.
Agreed.