Mileage discrepancy! advice required.
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Hi all. I am interested in a car and was making arrangements to go and view thios car when i decided to do a hpi first. all was fine except the mileage. the advertised mileage was 94k. yet the check said it had done 154k in 2006!! the car is a bmw 316 and 2003 reg. i thought it was a bit strange that the car had done 154k miles in 3 years so i questioned the seller. he seems really genuine and provided the things i needed to do a past mot history check. the results are below and clearly show a discrepancy between 2006 and 2007. could there be a genuine reason why? also there was a change made in 2007 to the model of the car! any advice on this would be much appreciated.
Date of test:
27/06/2012
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
86,409 Miles
Test number:
679949572172
Test expiry date:
29/06/2013
Full Test History, starting with first recorded vehicle and test results
Registration mark:
WF03EOG
Make/Model:
BMW / 316
Colour:
BLACK
VIN/Chassis No:
WBAAT52020FU58266
Approximate date of first use:
31/03/2003
Type of fuel:
Petrol
Date of test:
27/03/2006
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
148,532 Miles
Test number:
510076586084
Test station name:
SYTNER NOTTM
Test station number:
1ALQ15
Test station telephone number:
01159341414
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2)
Windscreen has damage to the swept area in excess of a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)
No Advisory Notice issued
Date of test:
28/03/2006
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
148,532 Miles
Test number:
340317286079
Test station name:
SYTNER NOTTM
Test station number:
1ALQ15
Test station telephone number:
01159341414
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
31/03/2007
No Advisory Notice issued
Date of test:
21/04/2007
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
68,245 Miles
Test number:
310121017118
Test station name:
BELFIELD ROAD GARAGE
Test station number:
7679B1
Test station telephone number:
01706640106
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
20/04/2008
No Advisory Notice issued
Change of details
Registration mark:
WF03EOG recorded at time of test, changed to C17YBA on 17/07/2007 by DVLA.
Make/Model:
BMW / 316 recorded at time of test, changed to BMW / 316TI SE COMPACT on 17/07/2007 by DVLA.
Date of test:
01/07/2008
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
72,332 Miles
Test number:
430193688163
Test station name:
MIDDLETON MOT CENTRE LTD
Test station number:
V100633
Test station telephone number:
0161 643 4355
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Nearside Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.5c)
Nearside Headlamp aim too low (1.8)
Offside Headlamp not in good working order adversely affecting beam image (1.2.4a)
Advisory Notice issued
Nearside Parking brake Your vehicle has only just met the required park brake efficiency. It would appear that the braking system requires adjustment or repair. (3.7.A.10)
Change of details
Make/Model:
BMW / 316 recorded at time of test on 01/07/2008
Date of test:
02/07/2008
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
72,333 Miles
Test number:
442624688189
Test station name:
MIDDLETON MOT CENTRE LTD
Test station number:
V100633
Test station telephone number:
0161 643 4355
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
01/07/2009
Advisory Notice issued
Nearside Parking brake Your vehicle has only just met the required park brake efficiency. It would appear that the braking system requires adjustment or repair. (3.7.A.10)
Date of test:
22/09/2009
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
75,377 Miles
Test number:
454585069231
Test station name:
MIDDLETON MOT CENTRE LTD
Test station number:
V100633
Test station telephone number:
0161 643 4355
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Centre Rear Seat belt retracting mechanism defective (5.2.5b)
Offside Front position lamp(s) not working (1.1.A.3b)
Nearside Front rear bush Suspension arm has excessive play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.2)
Offside Front rear bush Suspension arm has excessive play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.2)
Due to reving uneven Emissions not tested (7.0)
Advisory Notice issued
Front clamp Exhaust has part of the system slightly deteriorated (7.1.1a)
Date of test:
24/09/2009
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
75,377 Miles
Test number:
571267469205
Test station name:
MIDDLETON MOT CENTRE LTD
Test station number:
V100633
Test station telephone number:
0161 643 4355
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
23/09/2010
Advisory Notice issued
Front clamp Exhaust has part of the system slightly deteriorated (7.1.1a)
Change of details
Registration mark:
C17YBA recorded at time of test, changed to WF03EOG on 30/09/2009 by DVLA.
Date of test:
29/06/2011
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
75,902 Miles
Test number:
437720481141
Test station name:
NEW FIVE STAR MOTORS
Test station number:
0144BJ
Test station telephone number:
01706643806
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Front mounting Exhaust has part of the system excessively deteriorated (7.1.1a)
Advisory Notice issued
Offside Front Track rod end ball joint has slight play (2.2.B.1f)
Rear both near flexys Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Oil leak
N/s/f brake binding slightly
Date of test:
30/06/2011
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
75,902 Miles
Test number:
445241681193
Test station name:
NEW FIVE STAR MOTORS
Test station number:
0144BJ
Test station telephone number:
01706643806
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
29/06/2012
Advisory Notice issued
Offside Front Track rod end ball joint has slight play (2.2.B.1f)
Rear both near flexys Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Oil leak
N/s/f brake binding slightly
Date of test:
27/06/2012
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
86,409 Miles
Test number:
587529972141
Test station name:
WARDLEY SERVICE CENTRE
Test station number:
V106213
Test station telephone number:
0161 794 6424
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Nearside Front suspension has excessive play in a lower suspension ball joint (2.5.B.1a)
Advisory Notice issued
Oil leak
N/s/r tyre has damage to side wall not through to cords
Date of test:
27/06/2012
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
86,409 Miles
Test number:
679949572172
Test station name:
WARDLEY SERVICE CENTRE
Test station number:
V106213
Test station telephone number:
0161 794 6424
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
29/06/2013
Advisory Notice issued
Oil leak
N/s/r tyre has damage to side wall not through to cords
Date of test:
27/06/2012
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
86,409 Miles
Test number:
679949572172
Test expiry date:
29/06/2013
Full Test History, starting with first recorded vehicle and test results
Registration mark:
WF03EOG
Make/Model:
BMW / 316
Colour:
BLACK
VIN/Chassis No:
WBAAT52020FU58266
Approximate date of first use:
31/03/2003
Type of fuel:
Petrol
Date of test:
27/03/2006
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
148,532 Miles
Test number:
510076586084
Test station name:
SYTNER NOTTM
Test station number:
1ALQ15
Test station telephone number:
01159341414
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2)
Windscreen has damage to the swept area in excess of a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)
No Advisory Notice issued
Date of test:
28/03/2006
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
148,532 Miles
Test number:
340317286079
Test station name:
SYTNER NOTTM
Test station number:
1ALQ15
Test station telephone number:
01159341414
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
31/03/2007
No Advisory Notice issued
Date of test:
21/04/2007
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
68,245 Miles
Test number:
310121017118
Test station name:
BELFIELD ROAD GARAGE
Test station number:
7679B1
Test station telephone number:
01706640106
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
20/04/2008
No Advisory Notice issued
Change of details
Registration mark:
WF03EOG recorded at time of test, changed to C17YBA on 17/07/2007 by DVLA.
Make/Model:
BMW / 316 recorded at time of test, changed to BMW / 316TI SE COMPACT on 17/07/2007 by DVLA.
Date of test:
01/07/2008
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
72,332 Miles
Test number:
430193688163
Test station name:
MIDDLETON MOT CENTRE LTD
Test station number:
V100633
Test station telephone number:
0161 643 4355
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Nearside Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.5c)
Nearside Headlamp aim too low (1.8)
Offside Headlamp not in good working order adversely affecting beam image (1.2.4a)
Advisory Notice issued
Nearside Parking brake Your vehicle has only just met the required park brake efficiency. It would appear that the braking system requires adjustment or repair. (3.7.A.10)
Change of details
Make/Model:
BMW / 316 recorded at time of test on 01/07/2008
Date of test:
02/07/2008
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
72,333 Miles
Test number:
442624688189
Test station name:
MIDDLETON MOT CENTRE LTD
Test station number:
V100633
Test station telephone number:
0161 643 4355
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
01/07/2009
Advisory Notice issued
Nearside Parking brake Your vehicle has only just met the required park brake efficiency. It would appear that the braking system requires adjustment or repair. (3.7.A.10)
Date of test:
22/09/2009
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
75,377 Miles
Test number:
454585069231
Test station name:
MIDDLETON MOT CENTRE LTD
Test station number:
V100633
Test station telephone number:
0161 643 4355
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Centre Rear Seat belt retracting mechanism defective (5.2.5b)
Offside Front position lamp(s) not working (1.1.A.3b)
Nearside Front rear bush Suspension arm has excessive play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.2)
Offside Front rear bush Suspension arm has excessive play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.2)
Due to reving uneven Emissions not tested (7.0)
Advisory Notice issued
Front clamp Exhaust has part of the system slightly deteriorated (7.1.1a)
Date of test:
24/09/2009
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
75,377 Miles
Test number:
571267469205
Test station name:
MIDDLETON MOT CENTRE LTD
Test station number:
V100633
Test station telephone number:
0161 643 4355
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
23/09/2010
Advisory Notice issued
Front clamp Exhaust has part of the system slightly deteriorated (7.1.1a)
Change of details
Registration mark:
C17YBA recorded at time of test, changed to WF03EOG on 30/09/2009 by DVLA.
Date of test:
29/06/2011
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
75,902 Miles
Test number:
437720481141
Test station name:
NEW FIVE STAR MOTORS
Test station number:
0144BJ
Test station telephone number:
01706643806
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Front mounting Exhaust has part of the system excessively deteriorated (7.1.1a)
Advisory Notice issued
Offside Front Track rod end ball joint has slight play (2.2.B.1f)
Rear both near flexys Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Oil leak
N/s/f brake binding slightly
Date of test:
30/06/2011
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
75,902 Miles
Test number:
445241681193
Test station name:
NEW FIVE STAR MOTORS
Test station number:
0144BJ
Test station telephone number:
01706643806
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
29/06/2012
Advisory Notice issued
Offside Front Track rod end ball joint has slight play (2.2.B.1f)
Rear both near flexys Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Oil leak
N/s/f brake binding slightly
Date of test:
27/06/2012
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
86,409 Miles
Test number:
587529972141
Test station name:
WARDLEY SERVICE CENTRE
Test station number:
V106213
Test station telephone number:
0161 794 6424
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Nearside Front suspension has excessive play in a lower suspension ball joint (2.5.B.1a)
Advisory Notice issued
Oil leak
N/s/r tyre has damage to side wall not through to cords
Date of test:
27/06/2012
Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:
86,409 Miles
Test number:
679949572172
Test station name:
WARDLEY SERVICE CENTRE
Test station number:
V106213
Test station telephone number:
0161 794 6424
Test class:
IV
Test expiry date:
29/06/2013
Advisory Notice issued
Oil leak
N/s/r tyre has damage to side wall not through to cords
I'd walk away. There are plenty of other ten year old poverty spec ones on the market, and you don't need to buy one with a questionable service history, possible evidence of clocking, and a number of MOT fails that suggest that the car hasn't been maintained properly (tyre through to the cords does suggest a pretty inattentive owner).
You could always have a look, see the service booklet and see if it matches the mileage, if he hasn't got early history as most do becuase they're under warranty then walk away. Also this happened to my wifes car, div read the trip reading inclduing the 10th of a ile figure and suddenly increased our odo ready by 30,000 miles, we took it back and got it sorted but it can be put in by mistake
robbo79 said:
hhmm yes i thought it could maybe be a mistake but not too sure. why was the car model changed from a bmw 316 to a 316 se compact in 2007? confusing the hell outta me this
This would worry me enough to walk away I think, especially with a mileage change around the same time, 3 series aren't exactly rare and i'd look for alternativesI would see if the franchise dealer that did the car's first MoT can help.
If they stuck a '1' in front of the mileage, it's all good (although the car's still apparently only done 40k in seven years so check for further clocking!)
If they couldn't help, then I'd definitely look elsewhere.
If they stuck a '1' in front of the mileage, it's all good (although the car's still apparently only done 40k in seven years so check for further clocking!)
If they couldn't help, then I'd definitely look elsewhere.
good idea about caller the franchise dealer, i will do that first thing see if they can shed some light onto it. think i will just walk away though too much of a risk. have just spoken to someone about this now and they have said it has maybe had an engine change which would explain the change to the model in 2007. not usre if that explains it though
Ask for the current VIN/Chassis number to see if that matches the VIN recorded by the dealers. If it wasn't for the two tests a day apart done by the dealer I have guessed entry error misreading the dash twice would seem unusual.
Also the car had an expired MOT for a month in 2007 again unusual on a then still new(ish) car.
Finally the failure for "major leak of exhaust gases" doesn't ring true if the mileage was 48k @ 3yrs old but sounds very reasonable for 148k...
Also the car had an expired MOT for a month in 2007 again unusual on a then still new(ish) car.
Finally the failure for "major leak of exhaust gases" doesn't ring true if the mileage was 48k @ 3yrs old but sounds very reasonable for 148k...
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