dreaded DMF failure TDCI Mondeo.
Discussion
Hi, new to the forum ( though i have read these forums before but not as a member).
I was looking to buy a new second hand car last year, I had had a mondeo 1.8 petrol for 4 years and done 70k in it and in that time only a the need for a new handbrake cable and 2 front springs had let it down..
Always fancied a 2 litre TDCI 130 i had read about there tourqe and decentish speed.
so i gave this forum a read and read all about the DMF failures and also some saying it had never happened to there TDCI. so after thinking about it i test drove 1 and was impressed it had much more power than the petrol mondeo i had, it had 70k on the clock a 2005 model GHIA looked very nice too, i thought nah wont happen to me this DMF failure thing......so last November traded my 51 plate petrol in for the TDCI.......All was well untill last week and DMF and clutch failure at 73k..took it to my local mechanic who gave me the news....
had the dual mass flywheel clutch and slave cylinder replaced today (an all day job)...i had read reports on here of 1k plus so i was expecting it......but it actually came to £685 which i didnt think was bad considering i was expecting 1k plus..
So anyone thinking it might not happen to them, it happens and it happened to me...although not as much to fix as expected....i just hope that it lasts at least another 73k.
John
I was looking to buy a new second hand car last year, I had had a mondeo 1.8 petrol for 4 years and done 70k in it and in that time only a the need for a new handbrake cable and 2 front springs had let it down..
Always fancied a 2 litre TDCI 130 i had read about there tourqe and decentish speed.
so i gave this forum a read and read all about the DMF failures and also some saying it had never happened to there TDCI. so after thinking about it i test drove 1 and was impressed it had much more power than the petrol mondeo i had, it had 70k on the clock a 2005 model GHIA looked very nice too, i thought nah wont happen to me this DMF failure thing......so last November traded my 51 plate petrol in for the TDCI.......All was well untill last week and DMF and clutch failure at 73k..took it to my local mechanic who gave me the news....
had the dual mass flywheel clutch and slave cylinder replaced today (an all day job)...i had read reports on here of 1k plus so i was expecting it......but it actually came to £685 which i didnt think was bad considering i was expecting 1k plus..
So anyone thinking it might not happen to them, it happens and it happened to me...although not as much to fix as expected....i just hope that it lasts at least another 73k.
John
JohnTDCI said:
Hi, new to the forum ( though i have read these forums before but not as a member).
I was looking to buy a new second hand car last year, I had had a mondeo 1.8 petrol for 4 years and done 70k in it and in that time only a the need for a new handbrake cable and 2 front springs had let it down..
Always fancied a 2 litre TDCI 130 i had read about there tourqe and decentish speed.
so i gave this forum a read and read all about the DMF failures and also some saying it had never happened to there TDCI. so after thinking about it i test drove 1 and was impressed it had much more power than the petrol mondeo i had, it had 70k on the clock a 2005 model GHIA looked very nice too, i thought nah wont happen to me this DMF failure thing......so last November traded my 51 plate petrol in for the TDCI.......All was well untill last week and DMF and clutch failure at 73k..took it to my local mechanic who gave me the news....
had the dual mass flywheel clutch and slave cylinder replaced today (an all day job)...i had read reports on here of 1k plus so i was expecting it......but it actually came to £685 which i didnt think was bad considering i was expecting 1k plus..
So anyone thinking it might not happen to them, it happens and it happened to me...although not as much to fix as expected....i just hope that it lasts at least another 73k.
John
Another story of it here, I bought a focus tdi suitably cheap with 130k on the clock and a slight pulsing back through the clutch pedal - an early sign of impending doom.I was looking to buy a new second hand car last year, I had had a mondeo 1.8 petrol for 4 years and done 70k in it and in that time only a the need for a new handbrake cable and 2 front springs had let it down..
Always fancied a 2 litre TDCI 130 i had read about there tourqe and decentish speed.
so i gave this forum a read and read all about the DMF failures and also some saying it had never happened to there TDCI. so after thinking about it i test drove 1 and was impressed it had much more power than the petrol mondeo i had, it had 70k on the clock a 2005 model GHIA looked very nice too, i thought nah wont happen to me this DMF failure thing......so last November traded my 51 plate petrol in for the TDCI.......All was well untill last week and DMF and clutch failure at 73k..took it to my local mechanic who gave me the news....
had the dual mass flywheel clutch and slave cylinder replaced today (an all day job)...i had read reports on here of 1k plus so i was expecting it......but it actually came to £685 which i didnt think was bad considering i was expecting 1k plus..
So anyone thinking it might not happen to them, it happens and it happened to me...although not as much to fix as expected....i just hope that it lasts at least another 73k.
John
It went on to 165k before the metal filings finally killed the starter and it went to the scrappy.
I wouldn't touch a diesel car with a DMF, I would have an automatic tbh.
My new car (new to me) doesn't have a DMF. The clutch slave cylinder is also outside the gearbox; if the slave cylinder breaks, It costs £2.50 for the seal kit + an hours garage labor to put right. £35 bill for a clutch job that would have cost £500+ on a diesel car.
My new car (new to me) doesn't have a DMF. The clutch slave cylinder is also outside the gearbox; if the slave cylinder breaks, It costs £2.50 for the seal kit + an hours garage labor to put right. £35 bill for a clutch job that would have cost £500+ on a diesel car.
Megaflow said:
Most cars are DMF these days, including your Rover 75.
Not that car I'm talking about, got a different car right now.The dmf on the Rover 75 (on the petrol v6 model) will last the life of the car.
skyrover said:
I thought diesel's were supposed to save money?
/pedant
This is why I insist on petrol cars, the reliability is much, much higher./pedant
skyrover said:
I thought diesel's were supposed to save money?
/pedant
I don't think that is being a pedant. It's a sad fact now. In the eternal drive for efficiency, diesel cars have become so complicated that there are too many things to break, and they're rarely a quick/cheap fix. /pedant
Next time my diesel throws me a curve ball, I'm getting shot and going back to petrol.
Only owned one diseasel car. Signum 1.9 CDTi. 45k miles, immaculate and well kept example. Owned for about 6 months and had EGR issues, DPF needed replaced at significant expense and the DMF was rattling away when I finally cut my losses and got rid of it. Cant see me having another diesel anytime soon, I failed to do my homework before I bought it. Cant believe how many really common and expensive issues they have. My dad had the Mondeo TDCi and the injectors needed replaced at something like 30k miles, fortunately under warranty.
Buff Mchugelarge said:
Scary things, modern Diesel cars. A nice simple petrol for me 
Having driven diesels for work for the last 3 years, I'm glad to see the back of them!
Apart from the DMF failure in my Petrol BMW..
I'm not an engineer, but I thought that it's the torque and small power band of modern diesels that chews up DMF's (i.e. loads of torque within 2k revs, then nothing)? Petrol engines don't seem to be so savage, so I thought the DMF's would last longer on these in general?Having driven diesels for work for the last 3 years, I'm glad to see the back of them!
Apart from the DMF failure in my Petrol BMW..
I may be wrong though.
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