What is the likely outcome of this situation?
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One of my mates had 2 of his cars clamped by the DVLA for being parked on the verge outside his flat without any tax. When I spoke to him he told me that the DVLA wanted £160 per car to remove them but he had found someone that could remove them for £40. I thought that this was someone that could pick the locks or something but when I asked him if he was handing the clamps back to the DVLA (undamaged) he replied that he doesn't know where they are and claimed that he had left them outside and travellers may have stolen them 
Now funnily enough I can't see this going down well with thr DVLA but he reckons he's going to claim that he never knew they had been clamped so what is the likely outcome? He has moved the cars for what little it's worth but I can't help but think this is really going to cost him!
What are your thoughts?
Now funnily enough I can't see this going down well with thr DVLA but he reckons he's going to claim that he never knew they had been clamped so what is the likely outcome? He has moved the cars for what little it's worth but I can't help but think this is really going to cost him!
What are your thoughts?
555 Paul said:
One of my mates had 2 of his cars clamped by the DVLA for being parked on the verge outside his flat without any tax. When I spoke to him he told me that the DVLA wanted £160 per car to remove them but he had found someone that could remove them for £40. I thought that this was someone that could pick the locks or something but when I asked him if he was handing the clamps back to the DVLA (undamaged) he replied that he doesn't know where they are and claimed that he had left them outside and travellers may have stolen them
Now funnily enough I can't see this going down well with thr DVLA but he reckons he's going to claim that he never knew they had been clamped so what is the likely outcome? He has moved the cars for what little it's worth but I can't help but think this is really going to cost him!
What are your thoughts?
£320Now funnily enough I can't see this going down well with thr DVLA but he reckons he's going to claim that he never knew they had been clamped so what is the likely outcome? He has moved the cars for what little it's worth but I can't help but think this is really going to cost him!
What are your thoughts?
The simple fact of the matter is (however unfair and irksome it seems) that if you keep an un-taxed vehicle on a roadway or other public area, it is subject to the DVLA's Nazi-ism.
Harsh, but we all know the rules. If it's untaxed, then park it somewhere else! For a few quid or a bit of work, you can find bits of land that people would probably let you park a vehicle on (farms etc.) for free or a small bung.
There was a big story in the local papers round here recently, when a bloke had a fairly nice, solid Mark. 1 Escort in a parking bay outside his house on a Housing Association estate. He was in the middle of working on it, and it had a cover over it when he wasn't. Despite all that, and being tucked away in a bay in the corner of the parking area, not causing a problem or getting in anyone's way - the DVLA only saw an untaxed vehicle on a public road, simple as.
They loaded it onto a flatbed one day, and it got crushed. Shame - one less very rare car. But - as sympathetic as I and many people were - it was breaking the law, fair and square.
So, as other posters have said - yep, seems like a £360 fine, end of!
Harsh, but we all know the rules. If it's untaxed, then park it somewhere else! For a few quid or a bit of work, you can find bits of land that people would probably let you park a vehicle on (farms etc.) for free or a small bung.
There was a big story in the local papers round here recently, when a bloke had a fairly nice, solid Mark. 1 Escort in a parking bay outside his house on a Housing Association estate. He was in the middle of working on it, and it had a cover over it when he wasn't. Despite all that, and being tucked away in a bay in the corner of the parking area, not causing a problem or getting in anyone's way - the DVLA only saw an untaxed vehicle on a public road, simple as.
They loaded it onto a flatbed one day, and it got crushed. Shame - one less very rare car. But - as sympathetic as I and many people were - it was breaking the law, fair and square.
So, as other posters have said - yep, seems like a £360 fine, end of!
I'm sure the pretty pictures they take as evidence of them being clamped will be enough in the eyes of the law. Also since someone was paid to do something illegal but have no proof of the owner of the vehicles will have to take the fall for the criminal damages inflicted against the dvla. Also the extra cost of enforcers revisiting the cars and taking them off of his hands. Basicly muppet. Probably £600 now. Very clever.
Is he the registered keeper?
He's pretty lucky, where I work the DVLA swooped this week and took 9 cars, no warning, no clamps. £260 +transport each to get them back if brought away from their yard on the same day, otherwise they accrue daily charges .
Everyone thought they were ok because they were on private land, but the DVL f
king A asked the cock sucking landlord for permission and he gave it without telling anyone.
They were quite clearly not being used as they were write-offs, being broken, engineless, customer cars etc.
It was purely a money making exercise.
I don't know what kind of person it is that goes to work in the morning with the sole intention of extracting large amounts of money from those who can ill afford it, but they are not even fit to share this planet with any other decent people who actually have a use in life.
He's pretty lucky, where I work the DVLA swooped this week and took 9 cars, no warning, no clamps. £260 +transport each to get them back if brought away from their yard on the same day, otherwise they accrue daily charges .
Everyone thought they were ok because they were on private land, but the DVL f
king A asked the cock sucking landlord for permission and he gave it without telling anyone.They were quite clearly not being used as they were write-offs, being broken, engineless, customer cars etc.
It was purely a money making exercise.
I don't know what kind of person it is that goes to work in the morning with the sole intention of extracting large amounts of money from those who can ill afford it, but they are not even fit to share this planet with any other decent people who actually have a use in life.
Edited by Evoluzione on Sunday 3rd March 10:58
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
There was a big story in the local papers round here recently, when a bloke had a fairly nice, solid Mark. 1 Escort in a parking bay outside his house on a Housing Association estate. He was in the middle of working on it, and it had a cover over it when he wasn't. Despite all that, and being tucked away in a bay in the corner of the parking area, not causing a problem or getting in anyone's way - the DVLA only saw an untaxed vehicle on a public road, simple as.
They loaded it onto a flatbed one day, and it got crushed. Shame - one less very rare car. But - as sympathetic as I and many people were - it was breaking the law, fair and square.
So, as other posters have said - yep, seems like a £360 fine, end of!
The guy could have paid a fee and got his car back.They loaded it onto a flatbed one day, and it got crushed. Shame - one less very rare car. But - as sympathetic as I and many people were - it was breaking the law, fair and square.
So, as other posters have said - yep, seems like a £360 fine, end of!
The DVLA cant do anything, other than write letters. If the police have evidence then the man will probably be prosecuted.
The DVLAs claim to £320 is weaker too, because they dont have the cars to hold as ransom. Weaker is the wrong way to describe it, their claim is exactly the same, but their position more difficult as they dont have control of the cars. I wouldnt be surprised to receive a summons though, prosecuted by the local VRO.
The DVLAs claim to £320 is weaker too, because they dont have the cars to hold as ransom. Weaker is the wrong way to describe it, their claim is exactly the same, but their position more difficult as they dont have control of the cars. I wouldnt be surprised to receive a summons though, prosecuted by the local VRO.
Evoluzione said:
I don't know what kind of person it is that goes to work in the morning with the sole intention of extracting large amounts of money from those who can ill afford it, but they are not even fit to share this planet with any other decent people who actually have a use in life.
Probably somebody who can't afford to be too picky about what job they get offered?Just reading this thread reminds me about what is wrong with the UK.
I absolutely detest the DVLA and their nazi techniques to exploit more money from the uk motorist, its an absolute fking farce.
OP if I was in your mates shoes I'd have likely done exactly the same, and immediately changed the keepers details into my OHs name.
I absolutely detest the DVLA and their nazi techniques to exploit more money from the uk motorist, its an absolute f
king farce. OP if I was in your mates shoes I'd have likely done exactly the same, and immediately changed the keepers details into my OHs name.
Evoluzione said:
Is he the registered keeper?
He's pretty lucky, where I work the DVLA swooped this week and took 9 cars, no warning, no clamps. £260 +transport each to get them back if brought away from their yard on the same day, otherwise they accrue daily charges .
Everyone thought they were ok because they were on private land, but the DVL fking A asked the cock sucking landlord for permission and he gave it without telling anyone.
They were quite clearly not being used as they were write-offs, being broken, engineless, customer cars etc.
WTF? Was it private land then, or not? How on earth can they be "allowed" to simply tow cars that aren't on the road? Sounds bonkers. Not disbelieving you, it just sounds bonkers.He's pretty lucky, where I work the DVLA swooped this week and took 9 cars, no warning, no clamps. £260 +transport each to get them back if brought away from their yard on the same day, otherwise they accrue daily charges .
Everyone thought they were ok because they were on private land, but the DVL f
king A asked the cock sucking landlord for permission and he gave it without telling anyone.They were quite clearly not being used as they were write-offs, being broken, engineless, customer cars etc.
carreauchompeur said:
WTF? Was it private land then, or not? How on earth can they be "allowed" to simply tow cars that aren't on the road? Sounds bonkers. Not disbelieving you, it just sounds bonkers.
I know, can you imagine how mad everyone is? They know it's going to kick up a stink so tell the Police when they are going to strike, when trouble threatens they arrive in seconds (they must have been waiting round the corner). I think the DVLA operatives are 'wired' such is the amount of abuse and threats they get.Yes private land, it is a collection of units in a Mill complex around a large central parking area. That is why everyone thought they were ok, as I outlined earlier the DVLA asked the Landlord for permission which he gave without warning anyone. If we were warned by the DVLA to sort it out then it would have been fair, but we weren't, it was purely to create revenue. They took money from some of the most decent, skilled, hardworking, but penniless people I know for no real reason, they were cars that were just stood around for various (legal) reasons.
I lost £360 and a days wage.
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