The most economical vehicle for covering 150 miles per day
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Performance, space, desirablility, comfort (to a degree), spec .... All of these are out of the equation for this "what car?" thread.
Right at the top of the list is cost per mile for covering 35000+ miles per year, funded out of my own pocket.
I'm a student of the school of bangernomics, however reliability and hassle free motoring have to be right up there on the criteria too ... I don't want to have to waste my (invariably wet and cold) weekends messing about with my daily commuter.
This is white goods transport in the extreme!
My ideal solution would be, perhaps, something with a bulletproof manufacturers warranty, the potential to nudge 70mpg on a relaxed motorway 65-75 commute, and the potential to be able to thump 150k onto it over four years, and "give it away" to begin the cycle again.
I'm struggling to get my man maths in gear to decide what could be best. Brand new and hypereconomical and warrentied, or 5 years+ old without warranty but less depreciation and maybe less fantastic economy?
If a new option would be a viable and cost effective idea, what would be the cheapest way to fund the experience?
Right at the top of the list is cost per mile for covering 35000+ miles per year, funded out of my own pocket.
I'm a student of the school of bangernomics, however reliability and hassle free motoring have to be right up there on the criteria too ... I don't want to have to waste my (invariably wet and cold) weekends messing about with my daily commuter.
This is white goods transport in the extreme!
My ideal solution would be, perhaps, something with a bulletproof manufacturers warranty, the potential to nudge 70mpg on a relaxed motorway 65-75 commute, and the potential to be able to thump 150k onto it over four years, and "give it away" to begin the cycle again.
I'm struggling to get my man maths in gear to decide what could be best. Brand new and hypereconomical and warrentied, or 5 years+ old without warranty but less depreciation and maybe less fantastic economy?
If a new option would be a viable and cost effective idea, what would be the cheapest way to fund the experience?
I think top of the list would be comfy seats, comfy ride and mpg. Personally I'd be tempted to go for new - because the whole thing is fresh and warranty undisputed. I'm sure you could do it cheaper with an older barge, but if reliability (and having it sorted in a timely fashion) is key then manufacturer warranty with the backup of courtesy cars is surely the best tonic?
a car you want, with LPG
a car you want, with diesel
You just need to decide what meets your 'motoring' preferences
C1 or similar with LPG will do stellar MPG equivalent - probably 100mpg if not more
Nearly new so someone else takes the depreciation hit
a car you want, with diesel
You just need to decide what meets your 'motoring' preferences
C1 or similar with LPG will do stellar MPG equivalent - probably 100mpg if not more
Nearly new so someone else takes the depreciation hit
Edited by sparkyhx on Wednesday 6th March 13:18
anonymous said:
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One that I would really enjoy, however in an area that I couldn't afford, nor want, to live.To be honest, the commute would be less than 90 minutes, and I already drive nearly that time at the moment. My current commute is on horrid rural roads though, and is less than 50 miles each way. I'm used to thumping miles onto cars to work where I HAVE to, however this role could be doing what I WANT to .... We all have to work to make a living, and this could be a route into a position doing something I enjoy more.
What you need sir is a VAG PDTDI 1.9 in whatever flavor of VAG sub brand tickles you.
These engines are very strong and will run on Bio Diesel.
I ran a 52 plate A4 with the 130BHP engine over 80k miles in 21 months , at an average of 53MPG on 100% Biodiesel @ £1.05 a litre, so £7006 in fuel, saving (@ today's prices) approximately £2700...although you may be able to get it cheaper depending on your local supplier.
Car cost me £4.5k, and i sold it for £3200. In this time (and discounting things like light bulbs and tyres) it required 4 services @ £160 each, a cambelt @ £400 and a Turbo Rebuild @ £500, so total cost of car £2740
so total cost per mile.....80000/9746=12p excluding consumables...not bad IMO
These engines are very strong and will run on Bio Diesel.
I ran a 52 plate A4 with the 130BHP engine over 80k miles in 21 months , at an average of 53MPG on 100% Biodiesel @ £1.05 a litre, so £7006 in fuel, saving (@ today's prices) approximately £2700...although you may be able to get it cheaper depending on your local supplier.
Car cost me £4.5k, and i sold it for £3200. In this time (and discounting things like light bulbs and tyres) it required 4 services @ £160 each, a cambelt @ £400 and a Turbo Rebuild @ £500, so total cost of car £2740
so total cost per mile.....80000/9746=12p excluding consumables...not bad IMO
What about a new Dacia Sandero, 5 year warranty, proven 1.5dci engine and you can extend the warranty to 7 years.
£8395 gets you a new 1.5dci, very simple but that's no bad thing and should deliver 60-70mpg.
The alternative would be a Skoda Superb or Volvo S60 with a diesel engine, keep your fingers crossed nothing big breaks and enjoy nicer seats etc.
£8395 gets you a new 1.5dci, very simple but that's no bad thing and should deliver 60-70mpg.
The alternative would be a Skoda Superb or Volvo S60 with a diesel engine, keep your fingers crossed nothing big breaks and enjoy nicer seats etc.
Edited by chrisw666 on Wednesday 6th March 13:45
wemorgan said:
Buy one of the many 6-8 yr old diesels with 80k for ~£5k.
Run for 2 years then sell for ~£3k.
Start all over again.
ps. I'm talking passat, accord, mondeo and the like. Cheap to buy, cheap to run, reliable etc etc
Thats the time when modern diesels can really start throwing up bills. Run for 2 years then sell for ~£3k.
Start all over again.
ps. I'm talking passat, accord, mondeo and the like. Cheap to buy, cheap to run, reliable etc etc
If you have a spreadsheet you could do some maths on buying new using a straight HP, and VTing the finance once 50% is paid off then starting again. There is no mileage limit with VT just the requirement that the car is kept as per schedule so it could be cheaper than the full depreciation of a new car and the excess mileage payments on a lease without the hassle of running something with no warranty.
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