Child seat not securing toddler
Child seat not securing toddler
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pikey

Original Poster:

7,704 posts

315 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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I've got a Britax (something) I bought new that's rated very highly.

It's been securing my 2.5 year old child since she was about 9 months. Today it seems she can slip out of the shoulder straps. I checked that she was in correctly, and then refastened but she was able to do it again.

Apart from buying something else, I'm not quite sure what to do.

Has anyone experienced this and can offer any tips?

Ta

Superhoop

4,919 posts

224 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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It doesn't meter what seat you buy, they will still slip their arms out - my 3 year old does it in her Recaro seat, you just need to teach them that what they are doing is naughty/dangerous

Once they have learnt to do it, they do it because it's new, and like anything that's new, it doesn't last long

pikey

Original Poster:

7,704 posts

315 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Bump for the evening crew

Pique

1,158 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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civicduty

1,857 posts

234 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Have you moved the shoulder straps to their highest setting? If so talk to 'Boobles' they may be able to give you more advice.

Eta - 'Boobles' is a forum member not some dodgy something something.

Lagerlout

1,812 posts

267 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Superhoop said:
It doesn't meter what seat you buy, they will still slip their arms out - my 3 year old does it in her Recaro seat, you just need to teach them that what they are doing is naughty/dangerous

Once they have learnt to do it, they do it because it's new, and like anything that's new, it doesn't last long
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davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Show her that public service video with the pizza. That'll learn her.

miniman

30,218 posts

293 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Drop a PM to boobles who works for Britax testing car seats.

Bill

58,902 posts

286 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Lagerlout said:
Superhoop said:
It doesn't meter what seat you buy, they will still slip their arms out - my 3 year old does it in her Recaro seat, you just need to teach them that what they are doing is naughty/dangerous

Once they have learnt to do it, they do it because it's new, and like anything that's new, it doesn't last long
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Yep.She'll keep doing it as long as its funny/gets attention, if she gets told off she'll stop IME.

pikey

Original Poster:

7,704 posts

315 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Google has helped me with "5pointplus" that seems to be a solution

It appears that the clips that are common in North America aren't legal in Europe.

Gaffer tape would work though !

pikey

Original Poster:

7,704 posts

315 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Bill said:
Yep.She'll keep doing it as long as its funny/gets attention, if she gets told off she'll stop IME.
She doesn't let us know and we don't fuss. She does it because she's worked out she can do it and we only know if we check. Which of course is distracting so dangerous in itself.

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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there is this http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Seems to have decent reviews - not used it myself though


Bill

58,902 posts

286 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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said:
She doesn't let us know and we don't fuss. She does it because she's worked out she can do it and we only know if we check. Which of course is distracting so dangerous in itself.
Ours thought it was hilarious. IIRC it only took a couple of bkings before they got it.

pikey

Original Poster:

7,704 posts

315 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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wsurfa said:
there is this http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Seems to have decent reviews - not used it myself though
Yes, just ordered one of those. Worth a try. Will report back when I can

(Has to be ordered to my parents place in UK, then forwarded. Like most things, it's not available in Aus)

Fastdruid

9,413 posts

183 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Bill said:
said:
She doesn't let us know and we don't fuss. She does it because she's worked out she can do it and we only know if we check. Which of course is distracting so dangerous in itself.
Ours thought it was hilarious. IIRC it only took a couple of bkings before they got it.
Ours worked out he could press the button and undo the straps! Thankfully after a couple of times of being told off he stopped it.

Thanks btw on the info that the clips are banned in the EU, we have an american seat (for when we travel to the US, cheaper to buy than rent and you always get the nastiest cheapest seats for hire). We'll be removing the clip from it.

pikey

Original Poster:

7,704 posts

315 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Bought one of these: http://5pointplus.com/

Arrived, fitted, worked a charm!

Our daughter went a bit ballistic in realising she couldn't get out, but she gave it one hell of a test!

I'd recommend this as a solution

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boobles

15,251 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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My first question was going to be "has it got a 5 point harness" but that already seems to have been answered by buying this 5pointplus thing. My only concern with such devices is that unless the child seat manufacturer has recommended this, then your child seat will almost certainly be invalid of warranty etc because you have modified it without confirming that such devices can be used with the child seat. I would seriously give Britax a call just to confirm that they recommend this device with your particular seat otherwise not only could it be invalid of any warranty but it could also make the seat "un-safe" which I know sounds silly but it could be the case.

5pointplus

3 posts

164 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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In response to Boobles.

Major car seat manufacturers, including Britax, have crash tested the 5 point plus and concluded that the 5 point plus does not interfere with the performance of their car seats. We are also aware that manufacturers have recommended the 5 point plus to customers that have contacted them.

The 5 point plus has won major endorsement from German technical inspectorate TÜV through winning the Kind + Jugend 2011 innovation award. The jury was unanimous: “The 5 Point Plus belt provides much improved safety for a child in a safety-seat.”

Whilst the manufacturers are well aware of the issue, change would be quicker if more parents contacted them. One major manufacturer wrote "we found that just below 50% of users are faced with escaping kids".

The message from the above is that we should give feedback, otherwise manufacturers will never improve their products.

The following links provide a powerful reminder why we should take this issue seriously:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/selby_tadcaster/93...
http://www.9news.com/news/article/284507/339/3-yea...

These injuries are a direct result of toddlers having their arms out of the harness.

Finally, it is a pleasure to read positive feedback from parents once they have used the 5 point plus. Thank you

boobles

15,251 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Was this crash tested at Britax in England or Germany?

Can you also point me in the right direction as to where it mentions Britax or any other child seat manufacturer on the website please as this may be an oversight on my behalf.

Edited by boobles on Thursday 21st March 14:14

RichardKnight

3 posts

164 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Over in Ulm.

Apart from the brands that 5 point plus fits, we do not refer to manufacturers on the website

Regards