Out of the blue MOT advisory

[sickrabbit]

So I'm just looking through miss scikrabbit MOT certificate and there is a airbag light on advisory - now for 2-3 years of owning the car I never seen it on? neither it's on now or just after mot? so what they playing at? I'm planing to sell the car in few weeks so it will be a bit annoying to have such advisory and explaining it to prospective buyer might be difficult - what can I do?

[pimpin gimp]

Take it for a new mot, £40 well spent if it gives you peace of mind.

[Truckosaurus]

Although now with the new computerised MoT the advisories are available to view online so you can now longer make them 'disappear' by losing the bit of paper or getting a fresh test.

Also, perhaps the advisory was because the light didn't come on at startup (proving the bulb works) rather than being on during the test.

[CraigyMc]

Truckosaurus said:

perhaps the advisory was because the light didn't come on at startup (proving the bulb works) rather than being on during the test.

^This.

Have you checked?

[Countdown]

sickrabbit said:

So I'm just looking through miss scikrabbit MOT certificate and there is a airbag light on advisory - now for 2-3 years of owning the car I never seen it on? neither it's on now or just after mot? so what they playing at? I'm planing to sell the car in few weeks so it will be a bit annoying to have such advisory and explaining it to prospective buyer might be difficult - what can I do?

Just to clarify - your car has an airbag but you've never seen the airbag "check" light illuminate, even during start-up?

Possibly there's a fault with the airbag and the previous owner had the bulb removed rather than fixing it? Or th bulb is just fused ?

[thescamper]

Under the new test this would be a fail I believe.

Allready looking at timer circuits and stuff

[Captain Muppet]

thescamper said:

Under the new test this would be a fail I believe.

Allready looking at timer circuits and stuff

I don't have an airbag in either of my cars, but if I did I'd be quite keen on it not being faulty. It's one of those things that you want to work exactly when it's supposed to and never when it isn't.

[sickrabbit]

Thanks for all the replies - I don't have the car or the paperwork with me now so can't check either what exactly is stated on the mot or is the light coming on on start up or not - but let's assume it doesn't and it turns out that there is an issue with the airbags or they are deployed/missing do I have any come back through SOGA after 2-3 years of purchase date? (second hand civic on 56 plate purchased from used car dealer)
thanks
rabbit

[OllieC]

As an aside, where do you stand with removing airbags completely ? (aftermarket steering wheel perhaps etc)

[Freddy88FM]

OllieC said:

As an aside, where do you stand with removing airbags completely ? (aftermarket steering wheel perhaps etc)

You will fail the MOT as of this year when the new guidance comes in. Airbag light isn't currently a fail.

[AJB]

Freddy88FM said:

OllieC said:

As an aside, where do you stand with removing airbags completely ? (aftermarket steering wheel perhaps etc)

You will fail the MOT as of this year when the new guidance comes in. Airbag light isn't currently a fail.

As of tomorrow I believe. I think it's 20th March that the new MOT things are going live as failures rather than advisories.

Edit to add: I'm not sure it'll fail if there's no warning light on - I think they may have removed the requirement to fail if the the light doesn't self-test. But it will fail if the light it on.

Edited by AJB on Tuesday 19th March 12:41

[OllieC]

AJB said:

Freddy88FM said:

OllieC said:

As an aside, where do you stand with removing airbags completely ? (aftermarket steering wheel perhaps etc)

You will fail the MOT as of this year when the new guidance comes in. Airbag light isn't currently a fail.

As of tomorrow I believe. I think it's 20th March that the new MOT things are going live as failures rather than advisories.

Edit to add: I'm not sure it'll fail if there's no warning light on - I think they may have removed the requirement to fail if the the light doesn't self-test. But it will fail if the light it on.

Edited by AJB on Tuesday 19th March 12:41

How does the airbag situation work, will MOT stations know which cars should have them, it is also a date requirement perhaps ?

[Mudfugly]

The funny thing is that even though the airbag light might be illuminated, it doesnt mean that the airbags wont work.



Both front airbags deployed fine, it did cross my mind if they would as the other vehicle accelerated towards us on our side of the road.

[Captain Muppet]

Mudfugly said:

The funny thing is that even though the airbag light might be illuminated, it doesnt mean that the airbags wont work.



Both front airbags deployed fine, it did cross my mind if they would as the other vehicle accelerated towards us on our side of the road.

Even if the light isn't on it doesn't mean there isn't a fault - I used to work for a company that made airbag systems, and they had a customer complaint from a guy who saw an airbag go off in front of the empty passenger seat as his head bounced off the steering wheel.

[The Wookie]

AJB said:

Freddy88FM said:

OllieC said:

As an aside, where do you stand with removing airbags completely ? (aftermarket steering wheel perhaps etc)

You will fail the MOT as of this year when the new guidance comes in. Airbag light isn't currently a fail.

As of tomorrow I believe. I think it's 20th March that the new MOT things are going live as failures rather than advisories.

Edit to add: I'm not sure it'll fail if there's no warning light on - I think they may have removed the requirement to fail if the the light doesn't self-test. But it will fail if the light it on.

Edited by AJB on Tuesday 19th March 12:41

What about airbag removal and disabling of airbag light?

ETA - Quoted after the edit without reading it, sort of answers my question

[Freddy88FM]

AJB said:

As of tomorrow I believe. I think it's 20th March that the new MOT things are going live as failures rather than advisories.

Edit to add: I'm not sure it'll fail if there's no warning light on - I think they may have removed the requirement to fail if the the light doesn't self-test. But it will fail if the light it on.

Edited by AJB on Tuesday 19th March 12:41

Umm, oh st.

My car failed it's MOT on sat due to ABS light being on (didn't realise it was a fail, I took the ABS off because it grabbed really weirdly and was very unpredictable - French you see). Anyway, putting sensors back on for retest next week.

However! Airbag light is also on due to replacing a broken seat to one without side airbag. Will it fail a RESTEST due to new regs coming in between old test and retest?

[CraigyMc]

Freddy88FM said:

AJB said:

As of tomorrow I believe. I think it's 20th March that the new MOT things are going live as failures rather than advisories.

Edit to add: I'm not sure it'll fail if there's no warning light on - I think they may have removed the requirement to fail if the the light doesn't self-test. But it will fail if the light it on.

Edited by AJB on Tuesday 19th March 12:41

Umm, oh st.

My car failed it's MOT on sat due to ABS light being on (didn't realise it was a fail, I took the ABS off because it grabbed really weirdly and was very unpredictable - French you see). Anyway, putting sensors back on for retest next week.

However! Airbag light is also on due to replacing a broken seat to one without side airbag. Will it fail a RESTEST due to new regs coming in between old test and retest?

It should.

C

[jambo103]

On the retest, only the fail parts are checked?

[Jakg]

jambo103 said:

On the retest, only the fail parts are checked?

Whenever I've had a "retest" it's always just been checking the previous failures.

I.E. it once failed on a horn, came back the next week, parked it outside, tester presses the button and 5 mins later theres a cert in my hand.

[EventHorizon]

Its only an advisory. Why the fuss?