Are retreads still a no no?
Discussion
I was looking up tyres prices the other day, and i came across some surprisingly expensive retreads, by surprisingly expensive i mean they were not as cheap or cheaper than some of the new budget tyres, they were nearly twice as the cheapest budget tyre. This got my interest i've never used retreads always assumed they were still fairly dangerous, but i was wondering if they were just over priced or if decent retreads are now even better than some budget tyres.
I read a few articles on some tyre supplier websites, i expected all of them to say avoid like the plague as none of them seem to supply them, but infact some were quite complimentary about them so i wonder if things have changed.
Does anyone have any first hand experience of modern retreaded tyres?
I read a few articles on some tyre supplier websites, i expected all of them to say avoid like the plague as none of them seem to supply them, but infact some were quite complimentary about them so i wonder if things have changed.
Does anyone have any first hand experience of modern retreaded tyres?
Last time I put retreads on a car was 1976 on a ford cortina 1300 because I was skint and they where the cheapest option at the time.
If my car had more power then I'd gone for secondhand tyres.
I wondered how good these tyres are as lorries sometimes had theirs recut,though there is alot more rubber on them.
I suppose doughnuts and burnouts would be out of the question.
If my car had more power then I'd gone for secondhand tyres.
I wondered how good these tyres are as lorries sometimes had theirs recut,though there is alot more rubber on them.
I suppose doughnuts and burnouts would be out of the question.
Lorry tyres are designed to be recut and have much thicker rubber. .. Or something like that.
Afaik retreads have a new layer of rubber glued over the bald tyre.
No doubt they have been tested to a legal standard, and if you drive a low powered car in a conservative manner I'm sure they will do the job.
However; I wouldn't ever use them.
The tyres are the only thing holding you to the road and are the worst place to cut corners in terms of car parts.
Afaik retreads have a new layer of rubber glued over the bald tyre.
No doubt they have been tested to a legal standard, and if you drive a low powered car in a conservative manner I'm sure they will do the job.
However; I wouldn't ever use them.
The tyres are the only thing holding you to the road and are the worst place to cut corners in terms of car parts.
In theory a remanufactured tyre should be as good as a new tyre, but you cannot know,
- Who made the original tyre
- The quality of the original tyre
- How the tyre was used
- The condition of the tyre before remanufacture
- Whether the remanufacturing was done properly
I think the cheap chinese ditch finders are killing off remoulds.
Apparently the Insa turbos often found on 4x4's (proper ones not X5's) are pretty good. Carcasses are only from high end brands but apparently they are harder to find in good nick nowadays.
I'd rather have a good remould than ditchfinder....But ultimately spend a little more and by branded and new
Apparently the Insa turbos often found on 4x4's (proper ones not X5's) are pretty good. Carcasses are only from high end brands but apparently they are harder to find in good nick nowadays.
I'd rather have a good remould than ditchfinder....But ultimately spend a little more and by branded and new
me too.'retreaded' car tyres are a thing of the apast, 'remoulded' ones on the other hand are very much alive. I was trying to get hold of some remoulded winter tyres for the bad weather but due to everybody assuming they're dangerous, nobody stocks them.
It's a shame because the value for money and benefit to the environment make their existence increasingly worthwhile in my opinion.
It's a shame because the value for money and benefit to the environment make their existence increasingly worthwhile in my opinion.
I've been running Colway C-Ice star re manufactured winter tyres for the last 5 months and apart from the sheer number of weights required to get them balanced they have been pretty good, Given that when there's 2ft of snow outside you can't go that fast anyway which is for most of the winter they have been fine however Colway tyres seem to be used in quite a bit of motorsport over here so they can't be that bad..
for 35 quid a corner fitted I think they are pretty good and work far better than my "premium" summer tyres in the snow.
http://www.markgum.com.pl/pl/katalog/opona-22545-r...
for 35 quid a corner fitted I think they are pretty good and work far better than my "premium" summer tyres in the snow.
http://www.markgum.com.pl/pl/katalog/opona-22545-r...
liner33 said:
Lorry tyres have four "lives"
Original tread
Recut tread
Remouded tyre
Recut tread
Provided the tyre hasnt been damaged then its normal to remould them
As for cars I'd opt for cheap Chinese ones before remoulds myself
This (except I believe the "remoulded" stage is called retreading, and you can retread some tyres many times.)Original tread
Recut tread
Remouded tyre
Recut tread
Provided the tyre hasnt been damaged then its normal to remould them
As for cars I'd opt for cheap Chinese ones before remoulds myself
With lorry tyres, and certain van tyres the carcass is designed to be retreaded. Car tyres are not, and as such the safety of the internals can't be guaranteed. I'd too rather a set of Chinese tyres.
Ozzie Osmond said:
In theory a remanufactured tyre should be as good as a new tyre, but you cannot know,
It's a valid point but it's worth noting that all the remoulded tyre manufacturers I'm aware of check the tyre carcass for damage after the old rubber tread has been buffed off, and they don't use carcasses over a certain age. At least this prevents damaged tyres or tyres so old the structure might be degrading from being used. - Who made the original tyre
- The quality of the original tyre
- How the tyre was used
- The condition of the tyre before remanufacture
- Whether the remanufacturing was done properly
Think my dad told me that remoulds were made by melting the thicker rubber from the side of the tyre and scraping it on top where they'd then cut another tread in it. This meant that the sidewalls were thinner and couldn't cope with hard cornering or highers speeds as well as new tyres.
I've had 4 blowouts over the years. 2 of these were on remould tyres on motorways at normal motorway speeds. One was due to hitting a pothole big enough to be described as a mineshaft on a normal tyre, the other was on a motorway on old tyres after a bit of hard cornering.
I did put remould winter tyres on the missus old volvo last year and they did start to perish quite early; you could see a lot of lines starting to appear in the sidewalls as a result of potholes and her going up and down the driveway.
I wouldn't put remould tyres on any car I'm likely to drive over 70mph....
I've had 4 blowouts over the years. 2 of these were on remould tyres on motorways at normal motorway speeds. One was due to hitting a pothole big enough to be described as a mineshaft on a normal tyre, the other was on a motorway on old tyres after a bit of hard cornering.
I did put remould winter tyres on the missus old volvo last year and they did start to perish quite early; you could see a lot of lines starting to appear in the sidewalls as a result of potholes and her going up and down the driveway.
I wouldn't put remould tyres on any car I'm likely to drive over 70mph....
All the tyres I've used for drifting I've destroyed by cutting a section out of the sidewall. I've had a number of tyres delaminate from the heat, and I'd hate for those to get reused on the road.
However there are thousands of other tyres getting that sort of treatment that just get scraped and could end up getting reused, and that would really put me off using remoulds/retreads. Although I did have a set of Colway cut slicks for a while, and other than being really heavy and taking forever to warm up they worked OK.
However there are thousands of other tyres getting that sort of treatment that just get scraped and could end up getting reused, and that would really put me off using remoulds/retreads. Although I did have a set of Colway cut slicks for a while, and other than being really heavy and taking forever to warm up they worked OK.
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