When you have a passenger...
When you have a passenger...
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Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

214 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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...do you drive differently?

I've noticed a disturbing trend on the roads. Dangerous drivers with passengers. Sometimes seriously dangerous drivers (by that I mean dangerous enough for me to consider reporting them) with their children in the car. If they don't get killed to death there is the obvious risk that these youngsters will grow up to be just as bad behind the wheel as mummy or daddy and we'll have yet another teen aged statistic to mop up.

When I take my nephews anywhere I always make sure there's no eating, drinking, ipoding, hand held gaming, phoning, arguing, fighting or other distractions. Hopefully as well as leading by example (I'm not the best driver in the world but I'm no dhead either) and setting an example when they grow up and drive themselves maybe, just maybe they'll realise that driving the car isn't fifth on the list of things to do.

I also play observational games with them. Started out with "eye spy" when they were little but now as I'm looking ahead I'll ask them questions about what I see. "How many cars are waiting at the next junction?" "How many dogs is the lady up the road walking?" and "What colour is the car overtaking the lorry up ahead?" for example as well as asking them very basic Highway Code stuff. "I'm going to take the next right what should I do next?" I usually get a well rehearsed "Mirror, Signal, Maneuver" reply. smile

It's been noted at school that my older nephew is a lot safer on his cycle than other kids his age, this has been attributed to what I do when I take them out for cycle rides and give them lifts in my car.

I think it's too late for this generation after watching a bit of a BBC3 program last night where a new driver was doing 100mph on a motorway because his mates(?) were egging him on. If he's still got his licence after that he shouldn't bloody well have. This is an issue that the teen aged drivers who are moaning about insurance being too high, crashing and dying on our roads are the fallout of the generation of bad drivers that brought them up. The truly terrible drivers who are in their 30's now are the product of crap drivers from the 80's and so on.

So do you dive more considerately when you have a passenger or passengers on board or do you drive as per usual (whatever standard) and hope that it doesn't rub off?

Lee540

1,586 posts

175 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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No drive same.

aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

241 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Ah the classic case of "baby on board" - the owner thinks it makes other drivers drive safely around their precious cargo, the rest of us are thinking "hugely distracted driver in front, prepare for anything!!"

Liquid Knight

Original Poster:

15,754 posts

214 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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aka_kerrly said:
Ah the classic case of "baby on board" - the owner thinks it makes other drivers drive safely around their precious cargo, the rest of us are thinking "hugely distracted driver in front, prepare for anything!!"
hehe

"Baby on Board" = "Immune from the Road Traffic Act"

wink

TommyBuoy

1,299 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Yes - clearing sick off the carpet is annoying, as is getting hit in the face by a crazy woman scared for her life.

To be fair I was doing 31mph in a 30 zone...

I make every effort to be smoother to be honest. I've been driven by people who make no allowance for the fact their passengers might not want to experience full bore acceleration in Tesco’s car park so I figure its common courtesy.

It's the same as everything else - children pick up what they see / how others act.

Edited by TommyBuoy on Wednesday 3rd April 14:22

denniswise9

539 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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I saw the BBC3 programme you talked about last night and I have to say neither of those two should be on the roads, both were an accident waiting to happen. No awareness and no ability to be able to react to a situation as they were so distracted, and the 100mph on a wet motorway when you have just passed your test...at least wait until its dry before you do the top speed run that every lad inevitably does.


Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

183 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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I'm generally more sedate when I have a passenger.

I guess for the above curtious reason

pad58

12,549 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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My main passenger is my dog ,if we're in the van she's in the front seatbelted of course, then in the car she's in the hatchback and no seat belt.
I'm gentle with the loud pedal when she's with me ,but if they'er human not so.

Parsnip

3,287 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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The passenger can't see the speedo on the Zed until you are past 120mph.

"No honey, we arent going that quick, it just seems fast because everyone else is going slowly and my car is loud"



Edited by Parsnip on Wednesday 3rd April 14:42

sc0tt

18,310 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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No different. My driving is amazing at all times wink

StottyZr

6,860 posts

194 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Vocal Minority said:
I'm generally more sedate when I have a passenger.

I guess for the above curtious reason
I do also, mainly because when I'm on my own I'm purely focused on driving and can go a bit quicker safely(and have nothing to do other than get to my destination). With a passenger I'm chatting so my driving style relaxes.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

296 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Depends on the passenger and the location. Unless they want the full experience I'll try to give them a nice smooth ride.

alistair1234

1,136 posts

177 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Liquid Knight said:
killed to death
That sounds bad.

Liquid Knight

Original Poster:

15,754 posts

214 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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alistair1234 said:
Liquid Knight said:
killed to death
That sounds bad.
Although I am being serious with this topic I know how "Daily Mail" it comes across as so a couple of mood lighteners go a long way. smile

scarble

5,277 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Yes, deliberately smooth and gentle with passengers, much less overtaking laugh
But I refuse to bugger up my visibility/speed carrying by not crossing lines for the sake of people who are scared by that and don't understand that it is both safe(r) and legal.
Don't do my brake checks with passengers in the car, except once when my sister fell asleep (because my driving is that smooth).

Benrad

657 posts

180 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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I like to show off, not in the going fast, being a dick way but super smooth, double declutch type thing smile

ETA I'm probably not very good at it though!

Aidancky

243 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Yes, drive slower, smoother, its one thing being a bit naughty when its just yourself in the balance, but how would you feel if your driving caused injury to someone else?

Slow

6,973 posts

168 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Depends if its my mum im slower but mates dont mind faster driving.

However there is a 10 mile single track road to my house, at night i regularly do 60+ mph along it as i know it so well. Also the fact you can see headlights of oncoming cars at night.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

296 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Slow said:
Depends if its my mum im slower but mates dont mind faster driving.

However there is a 10 mile single track road to my house, at night i regularly do 60+ mph along it as i know it so well. Also the fact you can see headlights of oncoming cars at night.
I once found a drunk farmer trying to push his unlit black merc that had run out of diesel round one of my favourite corners. I managed to avoid killing him, parked, turned his lights on, pushed his car to safety and then drove him home. I regret not driving him to the police station instead.

Anyway, it changed how I treat bendy roads in the dark - not all other traffic has headlights.

mat205125

17,790 posts

244 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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If I'm on my own in the car, then I will drive to a more "enjoyable" limit that I may not with passengers in the car. This is a lot to do with their preservation* as it is to do with respecting their comfort .... not everyone entering the passenger seats of the car is there for a white knuckle roller coaster adrenalin hit, and may just want to get to the shops safely and in comfort.

  • Please don't reply to this with lectures about potentially endangering ones self and others, or deliberately exceeding posted limits or limits of adhesion. This is PH, and we all enjoy driving our machines. When we do so on the public road, we manage and mitigate the risks in a slightly different way than Doris will when driving her Jazz to bingo. Some would use terms like "reckless" to describe that, and it is undeniable that that may sometimes be the case. I personally weigh that risk in line with my limits, the conditions, the car, how busy the road is, and how visible the section of road is .... This may not always naturally corrulate with a sign posted speed limit determined by a commitee or local policy.