RE: Of Vipers and Chargers: PH Blog
RE: Of Vipers and Chargers: PH Blog
Thursday 4th April 2013

Of Vipers and Chargers: PH Blog

Further stereotype busting from our American cousins - the boss of SRT used to drive MX-5s!



If the new Corvette Stingray demonstrates the Americans might have a more sophisticated and nuanced view on what makes a proper driver's car than some European rivals what about the SRT Viper? Surely this monster is the last bastion of the stereotypical dumb American approach to performance, 8.4-litre 640hp V10 and all?

Well, what do you know, but when I sat down to interview Russ Ruedisueli of SRT at the New York Motor show I found myself chatting with another switched-on car nut who races Formula Ford in his spare time and, when quizzed about his road car history, immediately brings up MX-5s.

470hp, $40,000 and very, very purple
470hp, $40,000 and very, very purple
Yes, the boss of SRT - home of purple Challengers and V10 Vipers - is an MX-5 man. I didn't see that one coming either.

But it stands to reason when you learn a little more about SRT, which in America is being groomed into a homegrown AMG or BMW M, not just a supplier of bodykits and big wheels for diesel 300Cs as it is here.

"Most of us are racers or performance guys and the mentality is kind of 'that Charger is really cool but if it was MY Charger...'" says Russ. "There's a lot of interesting stuff out in the parking lot too. Most everything's been rubbed on or changed in some way."

And that purple SRT Challenger on the stand, the one that offers 470hp for a smidge under $40,000? Even Russ has to offer a polite shrug here. "It's still a pretty outrageous car in the States," he admits. "There's still a niche of folks who want that and we want to be able to provide that ... it keeps people happy."

You'll probably be needing quite a lot of that
You'll probably be needing quite a lot of that
He's a lot happier talking about racing, though, and how that experience has been channelled into the new Viper. "I'm maybe a little old school but I believe the link between racing and road cars is really important," he says. He offers examples, like the X-brace above the engine on the new Viper, a carry-over from the ACR-X. And he's excited about the return to Le Mans too. "One of the great things about an endurance race is that you know the flat-sixes of the Porsches, the V8s, the Ferraris and you can tell with your eyes closed what's going by," he beams. "This will be my first trip to Le Mans too and I'm really excited."

Viper customers sound like an interesting bunch too. "It's a very, very specific customer that wants a Viper," he says. "We find over 50 per cent of them use them on the track and it's a little different from other exotics in that way. We have customers that have multiple Vipers - we have one couple in Texas who have 56 Vipers - and people don't tend to get rid of their cars, they just buy another one!"

Viper TA is fastest production car at Laguna Seca
Viper TA is fastest production car at Laguna Seca
And if the Viper's steel spaceframe chassis seems a little old school in comparison with others there's a simple reason for that too. "We like that because we know our customers do stuff like crash them and it's easy to repair!" he says, while pointing out the construction also includes carbon fibre and superformed aluminium panelwork.

At double the price of a Corvette the Viper has bigger shoes to fill and is a more direct - if very different in spirit - rival to cars like the 911 GT3. Which is why the SRT guys are so proud that the bright orange Time Attack car on display at New York has recently taken the production car lap record at Laguna Seca, claiming it back off the Corvette ZR1. The time - 1:33.6 - is three tenths faster than the previous best by a Viper in 2009 and explains why 33 in the bright orange of the show car will be built.

Yes, the Viper is still an unreconstructed brute. But it's no simpleton. And with racers like Russ running the show it's pleasing to bust the myth that American cars are just about straight lines and quarter miles.

Dan

 

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Denver09

Original Poster:

134 posts

218 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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I rented a Challenger SRT-8 in LA and drove it to Palm Springs. Fantastic car for the US ($70 to fill it up). Ridiculous in the UK.

soad

34,751 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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According to the article, one couple has 56 Vipers! biggrin

F1GTRUeno

6,512 posts

249 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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PH report on that couple?

German

203 posts

178 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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I find myself almost ashamed to admit that one of the few new cars I want is possibly the most American car ever made.
I think I've finally realised how to keep myself happy in this time of flappy paddle uninvolvement...sod European, buy American. Then try really, really hard to tone it down slightly. Oh, and its got sidepipes. How can a man be unhappy with sidepipes? biggrin

Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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I always liked the Viper, but what really gave it serious cool points was the Le Mans/ALMS cars.


fatboy18

19,565 posts

242 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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Love em wink Main reason I got mine was because of Lemans racing history. I hope the new ones can do as well as the earlier cars.

dinkel

27,849 posts

289 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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It's not a Charger - 1971 383 Sebring Satellite - but it's purple.

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/...

collateral

7,238 posts

249 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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More Vipers than weeks in a year...

I wonder what the cumulative horsepower figure is wobble

Viper

10,005 posts

304 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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soad said:
According to the article, one couple has 56 Vipers! biggrin
yea they have 56 vipers in a specially made garages on their land, and also a rake of other lovely motors.
They sold their logistics business at a young age and made multi millions, good times

RedAndy

1,291 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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is it a viper? i thought it was a Ginetta!

fatboy18

19,565 posts

242 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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Shoshi

29 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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The boss of SRT? That is Ralph Gilles...

irocfan

49,330 posts

221 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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just <<droooool>>

If someone I knew had one of these I think I'd be green with envy wink

Broken

224 posts

192 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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Would love to be able to afford to run a viper over here, very cool cars and have enjoyed greatly the coupple of rides I have had in one biggrin

bashful

171 posts

261 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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Missed opportunity to ask him 'If you like the MX-5 so much, why can't you make a competitor to it?'