Sticking brakes - where/how to fix?
Sticking brakes - where/how to fix?
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.blue

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726 posts

211 months

Sunday 7th April 2013
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So after a year of putting it off I've accepted that my brakes need fixing... when the car doesn't roll back on an incline is a good sign that something is wrong.

As I understand, there are two ways to fix:
1) Strip calipers, clean and re-seal with new seals and rubber bits
2) Buy new caliper units and fit the entire unit

I would do it myself but given that it took me 4 days to change brake pads/discs, I won't have time to get round to it in the next few months.

Any ideas which one is preferable (obviously (1) will be cheaper) and where to get it done from? I'm dreading a £250+ repair bill so any tips on the most cost effective way of fixing would be appreciated.

Cheers.

MJK 24

5,679 posts

267 months

Sunday 7th April 2013
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Jack up each corner of the car in turn and spin the wheels and see which one is sticking. You'd be unlucky to have more than one sticking.

steveo3002

11,242 posts

205 months

Sunday 7th April 2013
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id imagine new /refurbed calipers will be the cheaper option if your paying a garage to do it

the seals to rebuild a caliper are often very cheap , but probably not for you if you struggled with new pads

ExPat2B

2,159 posts

231 months

Sunday 7th April 2013
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I have done both ways and the stripping and rebuilding is suprisingly labour intensive. I would also reccomend buying new pistons and slide pins. Also the results can be variable somestimes they stick again which always pisses me off as its a lot of work to waste. Normally takes me 4 hours per side, 8 if you are doing for first time.


I personally far prefer to replace the entire with a rebuilt unit, your local motor factors should have details of where to buy. Replacing the caliper is normally a doddle, 2 bolts and the brake line then swap and bleed. If you decide not to do it yourself the labour should be no more than an hour. Cheapest and best people are normally the marque specific indy garages.

.blue

Original Poster:

726 posts

211 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Odd twist... I jacked up each wheel to check as MJK suggested. And each wheel turned fine...

So it's either an intermittent problem (quite likely as I've noticed that sometimes the car does roll downhill) or there is another cause of it not rolling on hills. (Yes I have checked it's not an automatic biggrin)

If sticking brakes aren't the cause, what else might be?

74merc

602 posts

223 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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The next time it happens, stop the car and feel the temperature around each of the calipers. The hot one will be the culprit. The sticking should also be accompanied by a burning smell.

big_boz

1,685 posts

238 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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They wouldn't necessarily always stick, temperature and other things may be a factor.

A Panda i had at uni had intermittent sticky front calipers, the university fix for this was get out and boot the front wheels, not ideal but beer token maximization was of primary concern at the time.

Have you taken the brakes apart yet to have a look at them, I assume its discs if you are talking about calipers, might be slaves or flexi's that are at issue. I take it you have checked the fluid level and its not leaking. A good service might fix the problem for minimum outlay.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

296 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Go for a drive and use the brakes a bit. When you stop feel the centre of the wheels for temperature - what you're looking for is the one of an axle pair (front or back) which is hotter than the other one.

If it's only sticking a bit you can sometimes free it up for a while by pushing the piston in and out a few times. Of course this could also have the effect of sawing through the o-ring seal using a lump of rusty piston biggrin

I've rebuilt all the calipers on my 1992 MX5 over the years and it took maybe an hour to do the last one. The tricky bit was getting the dust boot to fit in the caliper and over the piston - one of the rears was frustratingly difficult.

I'm currently having issues with the handbrake - the cable to the left rear caliper is jammed. Mostly off, but it could jam on too. It needs a new cable, and I'll probably do the other side at the same time.

matt12023

485 posts

227 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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I too am having this problem on my rangie, drivers rear is hot to the touch after driving, no symptoms when driving, it was the smell and then heat which alerted me

Being a poor student but being handy with a spanner, I'm currently debating rebuild or caliper swap

heners54

286 posts

170 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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I had a similar intermittent brake issue on my corsa; the back left drum would stick every time the handbrake was applied and would either need pedal stomping or handbrake yanking to get the desired 'thud' and release.

Had rear brakes stripped twice and it was the same each time after as soon as I parked up! Nearly killed me on an island too as the brake fluid boiled from the rubbing contact along a stretch of DC :s

Just parked it in gear and sat on the foot brake at lights after that point till I got shot of it; think replacing with brakes is always best with old OEM parts, cash permitting.

Edited by heners54 on Monday 8th April 17:32