Anyone owned or got a Toyota Avensis diesel?
Anyone owned or got a Toyota Avensis diesel?
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Mr Pies

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8,998 posts

217 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Not for me, for my dad. He's looking at 05/06 plates. Coming from a Mondeo TDCI which has had the clutch fail, diesel injectors and now a pulley at the front of the engine, he wants something a bit more reliable.

Done a bit of googling and can't find much out about them. Does anyone know of things to look out for, common failures etc?


TIA.

LuS1fer

43,539 posts

275 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Does he need a diesel with expensive fuel and big bills? Will he never learn? Just get him to buy a petrol - it will be cheaper to start with. Toyotas are not the great reliable beasts they once were.

Shurv

1,024 posts

190 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Go for the 2.0,not the 2.2.Bombproof.

Mr Pies

Original Poster:

8,998 posts

217 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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LuS1fer said:
Does he need a diesel with expensive fuel and big bills? Will he never learn? Just get him to buy a petrol - it will be cheaper to start with. Toyotas are not the great reliable beasts they once were.
Seriously, I've sat down with him, crunched all the numbers and at current fuel prices he's saving £277 a year. Thats on 10k miles with a 35mpg petrol car vs a 45mpg diesel car. He won't listen to me.

ETA - He does 10k miles a year.

Easternlight

3,953 posts

174 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Don't these suffer from high oil consumption problems, or is that just the early 1.8's?

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

165 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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My first car was a mk1.5 Avensis D4D GS Estate in deep sea blue (or something like that). It was a loaner from my parents who were big on Toyota reliability. Only problems we had (on a car doing 25k or so a year) were brake pads that fell off a couple of times and a squeaky fan belt (ok, alternator belt) bearing. Bought it brand new and sold it at 6 or 7 years old and hadn't really had any major to worry about in that time. Can't comment on the mk2 though.

Jonny_

4,709 posts

237 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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ModernAndy said:
My first car was a mk1.5 Avensis D4D GS Estate in deep sea blue (or something like that). It was a loaner from my parents who were big on Toyota reliability. Only problems we had (on a car doing 25k or so a year) were brake pads that fell off a couple of times and a squeaky fan belt (ok, alternator belt) bearing. Bought it brand new and sold it at 6 or 7 years old and hadn't really had any major to worry about in that time. Can't comment on the mk2 though.
"Brake pads that fell off" would be enough to put me off any car!

A205GTI

750 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Had an 04 plate for 2 years as a company vehicle, apart from the aircon failing (pump seized) was pretty bullet proof tbh, comfy not great on full consumption thougn. high 30s to low 40s on the 2.2d

Sparta VAG

436 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Have had a 58 plate Avensis diesel for the last 3 months at work and it has 30k miles on it.

Not that exciting, but fairly well-specced inside and reasonably refined for a diesel. Superb on the motorway and still quiet at 100 mph.

Mechanically it is faultless, but mpg isn't that great compared to many modern diesels.

The interior also feels quite cheap and some bits of the dash have fallen off. Mk 4 Mondeo is a much better car IMHO.

thekingisdead

320 posts

163 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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10k PA he needs shooting if he thinks a diesel will save him money. Have you shown him the plethora of advice from journalists that modern diesels are only cost effective at stellar milage's?

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

165 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Jonny_ said:
"Brake pads that fell off" would be enough to put me off any car!
Well it was only at one corner and the pad fell off at about 2.5 years and then a bit later. Wasn't a massive deal but noisy and meant the car had to be driven to the garage asap

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Mr Pies said:
LuS1fer said:
Does he need a diesel with expensive fuel and big bills? Will he never learn? Just get him to buy a petrol - it will be cheaper to start with. Toyotas are not the great reliable beasts they once were.
Seriously, I've sat down with him, crunched all the numbers and at current fuel prices he's saving £277 a year. Thats on 10k miles with a 35mpg petrol car vs a 45mpg diesel car. He won't listen to me.

ETA - He does 10k miles a year.
Does that include or exclude the bills associated with dual mass flywheel failures, injection failures, EGR failures, particulate filter related problems etc?

worktopaytax

51 posts

161 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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A guy I know has a 53 Reg avensis diesel,
Has done over 220,000 miles, had the odd problem starting it in the really cold weather but other than that it gets him about fine. He does lots of motorway miles

JU5T1N

1,095 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Had one as a works car, most of them had over 150k and badly treated but were the 2.0 d4d.
I really rated them and the engines just kept on pulling.

NadiR

1,071 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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I echo the others who've said to get the petrol version instead, but surely the thousands of private hire drivers who use an 05/06 Avensis diesel can't be wrong?

prg1

283 posts

200 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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We have had one for over four years and 60k miles. Only real issue was a big one.
Head gasket failed at 65k. This was a 2.2 d4d T180.
Apart from that though its been an ok car.
Gets us from a to b. The fuel economy is not great though. Averages high 30's

V88Dicky

7,373 posts

213 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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I had a mk1 Avensis a couple of years ago, and it was an excellent daily driver. Tough, reliable and economical (I used to get 45mpg over the working week), and very easy to work on.

Oh, and it was the 2.0 VVT-I engine.

I think a T25 Avensis (mk2) with the 1.8VVT-I petrol engine will not only be cheaper to buy for your dad, but also cheaper overall to run, ESPECIALLY only doing 10k per year. No timing belt, dpf, dmf etc.

Have a word! wink

Meths

2,107 posts

166 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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I had a diesel one as a courtesy car.


Interior is plasticy and horrible, not up to par with fords offerings. The engine is pokey enough but I really struggled to achieve 40mpg.

LuS1fer

43,539 posts

275 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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I just had a Kia Cee'd 1.6 diesel (turbo) as a hire car in Spain (from Firefly by Hertz) and while it had some nasty shiny 80s plastic inside, it was a solid performer and came with a 6 speed gearbox which seemed to make it economical.

Of note, was that it had 104000 km on it which is about the highest I've seen on a mainstream hire car and suggests a modicum of reliability if Hertz were willing to keep it on their fleet. Still seemed tight and despite some dents, it didn't rattle and was quiet when cruising around 100mph.

rumple

15,172 posts

181 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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LuS1fer said:
I just had a Kia Cee'd 1.6 diesel (turbo) as a hire car in Spain (from Firefly by Hertz) and while it had some nasty shiny 80s plastic inside, it was a solid performer and came with a 6 speed gearbox which seemed to make it economical.

Of note, was that it had 104000 km on it which is about the highest I've seen on a mainstream hire car and suggests a modicum of reliability if Hertz were willing to keep it on their fleet. Still seemed tight and despite some dents, it didn't rattle and was quiet when cruising around 100mph.
I think they have to be reliable , look at the warrenty they offer, imagine so called well built German car company's offering the same thing, they would be bankrupted.