T Sport advice
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Fancy a change so gonna sell the Ignis Sport and get something a bit quicker.
I'll be 21 in june so thats when i can insure some quicker cars.
At the moment i'm looking at Corolla 1.8 T Sports, i hear there isn't much power below 6000rpm but i assume it will still feel a lot quicker than my Ignis???
I'll be 21 in june so thats when i can insure some quicker cars.
At the moment i'm looking at Corolla 1.8 T Sports, i hear there isn't much power below 6000rpm but i assume it will still feel a lot quicker than my Ignis???
In a straight line maybe. The Corolla T Sport is pretty softly sprung, and suffers from body roll as a result. I daresay it will be no quicker than the Ignis Sport on a B road. Is there anything in particular that attracts you to the Corolla T Sport? It's sort of like an Honda EP3 (breadvan Civic Type R) but inferior in every way. Now, the Honda would be a step up.
As above the Corolla was a very watered down car, wallowey feel on the suspension, think of jelly on a plate and you'll know what I mean, and the brakes didn't enspire me with confidence when I drove one, but you can easily sort them with suspension and uprated discs & pads.
Think if you went for one of them though, you'll be kicking yourself for not picking an EP3 up though as they are better in all aspects as said above.
If it has to be a T Sport have you thought about a Celica T Sport?
Think if you went for one of them though, you'll be kicking yourself for not picking an EP3 up though as they are better in all aspects as said above.
If it has to be a T Sport have you thought about a Celica T Sport?
Aidancky said:
What is this rather rubbish video supposed to tell us? I used to want a Corolla T Sport, as I thought it would be a quirky alternative to a Type R. How wrong I was, sadly. The engine is peppy enough, despite it's very small, high power band. I don't mind that. The handling is sloppy though, and the gearbox has a pretty poor throw, and the ratios are a little odd. 5th and 6th gear seem very close together, I remember reading somewhere the gearing of 5th into 6th is really 5th into 5th! How odd. The last T Sports came out with supercharger, which wasn't enough to turn a mediocre car into a good one. My thoughts on the car were well summarised by someone on PH saying words to the effect of "it's really just a family car, a boring old Corolla that has the hidden trick of a hot cam profile that can go quite quick when you rev it". If the EP3 was a scalpel the Corolla T Sport would be a butter knife.
Sadly, my work used to run one as an office car. I never got to try it as it belonged to a different department and ended up having a gearbox failure that wrote it off. What a shame!
They are good cars and can keep up wih the usual type r/Clio/focus st era of hot hatches.
The cars do take a while to gel with, I understand most people's complaints when talking about the handling, gearbox etc. but after a few years of ownership I rather like it despite its flaws. Go and have attest drive and see if you like it.
Oem suspension is some how crashy but wollowy at the same time. Having owned one for a while I would recommend coilovers or sports springs and dampers. New anti roll bar is a must.
gearbox isn't great either, the throw is a bit long and notchy.
The heater matrix on early versions can clog up and the versions with cloth seats can wear badly on the drivers side.
As standard they are perfectly reasonable. With a few tweeks they are surprisingly fast point to point.
Expect 20mpg around town and when ragging it.
There's a decent owners club, corollaclubuk. Friendly bunch who can answer any more questions
The cars do take a while to gel with, I understand most people's complaints when talking about the handling, gearbox etc. but after a few years of ownership I rather like it despite its flaws. Go and have attest drive and see if you like it.
Oem suspension is some how crashy but wollowy at the same time. Having owned one for a while I would recommend coilovers or sports springs and dampers. New anti roll bar is a must.
gearbox isn't great either, the throw is a bit long and notchy.
The heater matrix on early versions can clog up and the versions with cloth seats can wear badly on the drivers side.
As standard they are perfectly reasonable. With a few tweeks they are surprisingly fast point to point.
Expect 20mpg around town and when ragging it.
There's a decent owners club, corollaclubuk. Friendly bunch who can answer any more questions
CallorFold said:
iggysport said:
I'll be 21 in june so thats when i can insure some quicker cars.
Make sure you do some quotes first, turning 22 hasn't done much for me insurance wise - let alone 21! You're really looking at 24-25+ before they loosen the reigns now 
I managed a BMW E92 335i at 21 for £820 and have recently insured a modified EP3 at 23 (with 2 non-fault accidents, points etc.) for £600 (Flux)
They are pretty reasonable truth be told
Under 5800rpm it's a 1.8 hatchback like old people drive.
If you want a car that is a standard hatch with straight line speed as a party trick to surprise people then this is the car. If you are not going to use the extra power and rev a 10 year old car up to 7800 rpm, then you might as well get a t-spirit!
I suspect this isn't the case though.
You're on the right track keeping out of the mainstream civic, focus, etc young driver sports hatches for your insurance.
But there is a reason these other hot hatches are popular, and that's because they're better.
I had a T-sport as a company car, **53SUO and did 82k in 3 years. ( on the off chance)
Valve bent at 60k, and engine died at 82k.
They aren't bulletproof. _
If you want a car that is a standard hatch with straight line speed as a party trick to surprise people then this is the car. If you are not going to use the extra power and rev a 10 year old car up to 7800 rpm, then you might as well get a t-spirit!
I suspect this isn't the case though.
You're on the right track keeping out of the mainstream civic, focus, etc young driver sports hatches for your insurance.
But there is a reason these other hot hatches are popular, and that's because they're better.
I had a T-sport as a company car, **53SUO and did 82k in 3 years. ( on the off chance)
Valve bent at 60k, and engine died at 82k.
They aren't bulletproof. _
Had one in the family for about 8 years now. Its had a sticking rear calliper and blown 1 headlight. Despite me abusing it as a teen and into my early 20s, it even survived a week at the Ring and runs up Santa Pod
Have a test drive in one and see how you feel about it.
I thought the gearbox felt quite nice and liked how positive the shifts were. The ratios could do with being a bit shorter, except 6th which could be longer.
gets 30-35mpg around town.
Will keep up with all the non turbo hatches and the VW ones like the Ibiza and Leon.
Handling is a bit soggy but perfectly adequate if you are not planning on doing track days.
I test drove a 182 and EP3 while I was regularly in the Tsport (I was driving an Impreza P1 as a daily at this point) and I preferred the Tsport. It just felt a bit more exciting if maybe not as competent. I had a go in one of the supercharged ones and preferred the standard one because the step in power when it came on cam was much more noticeable which made it more fun even if it was slower.
Powerband is still 2000rpm so easy to keep on the boil.
A friend of mine had the facelifted model and had no complaints with it.
Have a test drive in one and see how you feel about it.
I thought the gearbox felt quite nice and liked how positive the shifts were. The ratios could do with being a bit shorter, except 6th which could be longer.
gets 30-35mpg around town.
Will keep up with all the non turbo hatches and the VW ones like the Ibiza and Leon.
Handling is a bit soggy but perfectly adequate if you are not planning on doing track days.
I test drove a 182 and EP3 while I was regularly in the Tsport (I was driving an Impreza P1 as a daily at this point) and I preferred the Tsport. It just felt a bit more exciting if maybe not as competent. I had a go in one of the supercharged ones and preferred the standard one because the step in power when it came on cam was much more noticeable which made it more fun even if it was slower.
Powerband is still 2000rpm so easy to keep on the boil.
A friend of mine had the facelifted model and had no complaints with it.
Do a bit orf man maths and try to afford the extra insurance on a Clio 182/Civic Type R. You won't regret it. My friend had a CTS Compressor(the superchard 229bhp one) and it was neck and neck with my 106 Gti all the way up to silly speeds.
A Civic Type-R is better in every way. If you want something fun for cheaper insurance try a Clio 197, they are only 1 group ahead of the T Sport?
Do you want asomething quicker in a straight line or over B roads?
A Civic Type-R is better in every way. If you want something fun for cheaper insurance try a Clio 197, they are only 1 group ahead of the T Sport?
Do you want asomething quicker in a straight line or over B roads?
billy939 said:
Do a bit orf man maths and try to afford the extra insurance on a Clio 182/Civic Type R. You won't regret it. My friend had a CTS Compressor(the superchard 229bhp one) and it was neck and neck with my 106 Gti all the way up to silly speeds.
A Civic Type-R is better in every way. If you want something fun for cheaper insurance try a Clio 197, they are only 1 group ahead of the T Sport?
Do you want asomething quicker in a straight line or over B roads?
Compressor was 217bhp, not 229bhp,(Standard), never ever felt like it!A Civic Type-R is better in every way. If you want something fun for cheaper insurance try a Clio 197, they are only 1 group ahead of the T Sport?
Do you want asomething quicker in a straight line or over B roads?
Studio117 said:
750turbo said:
Compressor was 217bhp, not 229bhp,(Standard), never ever felt like it!
the standard 2zzge doesn't make the quoted power, even the ones in the elises. Mine ran 182 at ssr.They're still not quick at all though! An ST170 would be a far better shout IMO
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